27 November 2020, 00:06
Alec TorresIMR 4451
I am not familiar with this new Enduron powder. I hve a chance to buy 16 lbs., but i am not sure if it is suitable for my favored calibers...
.22-250
.257 Roberts
6.5 X 55
25-'06
30-'06
7mm RM
.404 Jeffery
Can you advise me?
AT
27 November 2020, 01:03
FirearmdocNot sure about the 404, but all your other cartridges are listed on Hodgdons website with data available for IMR 4451.
Hope this helps.
27 November 2020, 01:52
358WCFWherever 4350 is useful so will IMR4451 be useful.
05 December 2020, 23:31
ClaymanIf it's a deal on the powder, I say go for it. I've been thoroughly impressed by the Enduron powders (4451 and 4166). The performance, consistency, and cleanliness is a winning combo.
07 December 2020, 17:19
john c.quote:
Originally posted by Clayman:
If it's a deal on the powder, I say go for it. I've been thoroughly impressed by the Enduron powders (4451 and 4166). The performance, consistency, and cleanliness is a winning combo.
how does 4166 compare to varget and rel 15 for 308 and 30-06? i get good results with 45.0 gr rel 15 in 308 w/a 168 gr HPBT and would like to dup that with 4166.
07 December 2020, 23:39
Claymanquote:
Originally posted by john c.:
how does 4166 compare to varget and rel 15 for 308 and 30-06? i get good results with 45.0 gr rel 15 in 308 w/a 168 gr HPBT and would like to dup that with 4166.
4166 is in the same burn rate class as Varget and RE-15, so it's suitable for the same cartridges and applications. The charges are most certainly NOT the same, so work up accordingly. IMR/Hodgdon are really good at releasing the data when it's available via their website. Check it out.
08 December 2020, 00:08
john c.i have been to their website and they do have some data/loads published. not a lot but some. but getting feedback from a user helps a lot. thanks
08 December 2020, 08:51
NormanConquest358WCF, that's good to know. my favorite + most used rifle powder is 4350. That being said, if you are getting the 16 lbs. at a good price I would jump on it. Who knows what will be available over the next 4 years.
08 December 2020, 16:23
p dog shooterIf it is a good price nothing wrong in buying for future use.
I have passed up powder deals in the pass then only to need it later.
09 December 2020, 00:26
crbutlerI tried some 4451 in a .30-06 and .308.
I didn’t get anywhere near the velocity that the book (Nosler) claimed with a starting load, and accuracy was not that good. However, I didn’t work up a load, and both of the rifles I know like faster loads.
I still have the better part of a pound left, so maybe I will play with it some more- but my 4350 loads work great, so not much incentive for now.
09 December 2020, 03:34
TJAYWith the new powders near or max loads work best. I was told and have read that they are designed to be at their best at 60,000 PSI or more.
4451 in my 7-08 works very well with 140 gr. bullets.