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Heaviest hunting bullet for .223 and 1-9 twist?
27 March 2005, 12:03
RamboHeaviest hunting bullet for .223 and 1-9 twist?
What can it stabalize, and who makes it?
27 March 2005, 13:24
GerardIn jacketed lead bullets a lead tipped flat base should be close to 0.95" long, a hollow point boat tail should be close to 0.9" long, and a lead tipped boat tail should be close to 0.88" long. A boat tail monometal bullet should be around 0.8" long. Weight is not important when stability is the issue.
Can't help you with who makes them but there are bound to be any number of members who could check the lengths of what they have on hand and tell us what matches.
27 March 2005, 22:13
Ralph HyrlikHornady 75gr. A-Max. Same construction as a V-Max and it stabilizes from a Remington 1-9" twist barrel. This is if you are after varmints.
If you are after larger game, then use a 70gr Barnes TSX.
27 March 2005, 22:28
ireload2Rambo,
I hope you don't mean hunting as in game large than a coyote. The .223 is a varmit rifle not a big game rifle.
28 March 2005, 01:23
RamboNo, not intrested in game larger than coyote.
I just hope to duplicate my 6.5 ballistics with a slower, high B.C Bullet
28 March 2005, 02:03
308SakoMy Colt Delta w/24" bbl will shoot 77 Sierra's and 75 A-MAX just fine. Pdogs to 1106 could testify to it had they survived!
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28 March 2005, 10:49
seafire/B17Gquote:
Originally posted by Ralph Hyrlik:
Hornady 75gr. A-Max. Same construction as a V-Max and it stabilizes from a Remington 1-9" twist barrel. This is if you are after varmints.
If you are after larger game, then use a 70gr Barnes TSX.
I'll second Ralph's pick of the 75 grain A max. If it does not stabilize, try the 75 grain HP Match. I have used it to great accuracy for me, at least being able to hit a prairied dog sileouette ( know I botched that spelling up) out to 600 yds, on an 8.5 x 14 inch paper with the scope on 8 X. I don't like shooting that distance at prairie dogs, but shooting at targets at that distance on a range where it is safe with a hillside for a back drop sure was a lot of fun.
Cheers and good shooting
seafire
28 March 2005, 10:53
seafire/B17Gquote:
Originally posted by ireload2:
Rambo,
I hope you don't mean hunting as in game large than a coyote. The .223 is a varmit rifle not a big game rifle.
Reload;
Evidently you have never hit an antelope sized deer with a 70 grain Speer SP, or a 63 grain SMP Sierra out of a 223 at about 3000 fps MV.
I use to think that too, until it happened several times and the 223 did a good job. I consider this in a bolt action, but I am not a guy who hunts with an AR, or even varmint shoots with an AR.
I consider big Game as Elk, and larger deer than are available around here. Sierras new 65 grain SP also looks like a good deer bullet for the 223 in my book. I limit ranges reliably to 200 yds or so, but I have faith in a well placed shot into the right spot at the 63 to 70 grains, MV.
Cheers and Good shooting
seafire
28 March 2005, 20:21
sundogI'm still exercising my .22 Cheetah MkI with 8 1/2 twist barrel to find an adequate load (lack of published data means alot of trial and error). Anyway, last Saturday I shot a 10-round about 1-inch group (in alot of wind) at a hundred yards with the Hdy 75 gr A-Max over 41.0 RL22. Best so far. From previous testing with chrono I am guessing this load at about 3,000 fps. That was the only rounds I fired as I am still 'sneaking up' on a load. Looks promising, now. Sure was a cute little cluster, all those bitty holes coveyed up all together! sundog
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28 March 2005, 21:52
seafire/B17Gquote:
Originally posted by sundog:
I'm still exercising my .22 Cheetah MkI with 8 1/2 twist barrel to find an adequate load (lack of published data means alot of trial and error). Anyway, last Saturday I shot a 10-round about 1-inch group (in alot of wind) at a hundred yards with the Hdy 75 gr A-Max over 41.0 RL22. Best so far. From previous testing with chrono I am guessing this load at about 3,000 fps. That was the only rounds I fired as I am still 'sneaking up' on a load. Looks promising, now. Sure was a cute little cluster, all those bitty holes coveyed up all together! sundog
Sundog, I'd expect more velocity out of 41 grains of RL 22 with that bullet, or else it shows the decrease in returns that leads to early barrel wear.
I have clocked 2950 fps with a 75 grain out of a 223, with several different powders. If that didn't hit 3500 fps, why mess with it and burn all that extra powder?
cheers
seafire
29 March 2005, 00:04
HP ShooterI'd give a look to Swift's new 75 grain .224" Scirocco. It may or may not stabilize in a 1-9, but if it does, it should hammer deer.
A 1-8 barrel will certainly stabilize up to 80 grain .224" bullets.
29 March 2005, 00:05
HP Shooterquote:
Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
but I am not a guy who hunts with an ARseafire
Why not?
29 March 2005, 00:52
El Deguelloquote:
Originally posted by ireload2:
Rambo,
I hope you don't mean hunting as in game large than a coyote. The .223 is a varmit rifle not a big game rifle.
Yeah, but them little ol' varmints that pass for deer in Central Texas can be handily killed with a .223. The old Winchester 64-grain did a good job of it. Finn Aagard, as well as a lot of the troops at Fort Hood, have proved this beyond question!
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29 March 2005, 10:00
seafire/B17Gquote:
Originally posted by HP Shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
but I am not a guy who hunts with an ARseafire
Why not?
Just never had much use for an Auto or Semi Auto.
Been around M 16s in the Army, but just prefer a good bolt rifle any day. When I watch guys shoot ARs out on rat shoots or prairie dogs, I just don't want to have to wander all over the place and pick up brass. Of course after they leave and if they don't pick it up, I go over and do so to reload it.... so I guess I should not complain too loud huh?

cheers
seafire