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Reloads and smudging/smoke staining to cartridge necks

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29 May 2001, 04:55
Pete
Reloads and smudging/smoke staining to cartridge necks
Just gazing lovingly at some spent .22/250 cases, checking them over for signs of excess pressure.
That smudge/fouling around the outside of the case neck - does it tell me anything?
29 May 2001, 07:10
Bob338
Yes. Tells you it's normal. If it's below the neck you are getting improper sealing. Bob
29 May 2001, 09:51
<Lee in OH>
I have noticed that if I fail to use a chamber mop after cleaning, some residual solvent will burn and cause greasy black residue.

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30 May 2001, 20:12
Pete
Thanks guys, but why exactly is there such a difference in the amount of smudge between the factory loads I'm using up and my home loads?
30 May 2001, 23:34
<Don G>
How many times have you reloaded the cases? Have you annealed them? As the brass gets work hardened it is slower to seal.

It can also have a lot to do with the powder type and load. Slower powders do more of this, as do lighter loads in my experience.

If it does not go below the neck it is not a safety factor, in my book.

Don

31 May 2001, 01:30
Pete
Hi Don,

Mostly reloaded for the first time (Federal ex-factory rounds), some twice or three times. Not annealed.

Powder is H380 and loads are now between 36.4 and 38.9 grains, with 55 gr bullets.

I appreciate there may not be a safety issue here, in which case its just nice to know what the signs are and how to read them.

31 May 2001, 01:32
Pete E
Take a look at my related thread further down this forum. Your not the only one with this
problem! My mate is back off holiday now, so we'll be investigating further.

Pete

31 May 2001, 02:38
Pete
Pete E.

I've just read your thread. FWIW, I'm only neck sizing and not crimping.
Given the difference between his loads and those made up for him by the gunsmith, I'd be thinking about there being a link to your friend's equipment (so to speak).

I'll keep up with your thread.

31 May 2001, 09:49
Atkinson
The answer to your question is that you are using too slow a powder..Go to the next faster powder or so and it will stop...Example 4831 to 4350 to 4320 and on until it quits..

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31 May 2001, 19:09
Pete
Ray,

Thanks for that. Could you possibly explain what's happening and how a faster powder will change things?