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They are calling me crazy
04 June 2005, 18:01
MohuntThey are calling me crazy
I have observed through the years that if I switch from one powder to another during the same range time in a specific rifle the true accuracy will not be reflective until a few shots have been fired with the new powder. So I have tried to stick with one powder, or clean and shoot a couple fouling shots prior to shooting my test group. When I tell people this they look at me a funny and say it should not affect the accuracy going from one powder to another without cleaning. So I thought I would get some input from other pros out there!! Your thoughts folks!!!
04 June 2005, 18:07
308SakoI have also observed this "effect" and beleive that it has to do with the chemical specific fouling that an individual powder will produce. Different friction and different barrel time/vibrations all add up. Who knows????
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05 June 2005, 00:04
El Deguelloquote:
Originally posted by Mohunt:
I have observed through the years that if I switch from one powder to another during the same range time in a specific rifle the true accuracy will not be reflective until a few shots have been fired with the new powder. So I have tried to stick with one powder, or clean and shoot a couple fouling shots prior to shooting my test group. When I tell people this they look at me a funny and say it should not affect the accuracy going from one powder to another without cleaning. So I thought I would get some input from other pros out there!! Your thoughts folks!!!
I have never observed this effect, but have not been looking for it either. There is no reason why it could not happen just as you say.
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05 June 2005, 01:02
vapodogYou might observe correctly but assess the incorrect cause.
I find that after
adjusting my scope it takes a few shots and then the shots settle in to good looking groups.
This, I assume, is because of the horribly cheap but very useful scopes I use.
Is it possible that after changing powders you then also adjust the scope for center of bullseye?
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05 June 2005, 01:23
DB BillHere's what's happening.
No matter how clean burning a powder is there will always been some partially-burned and some unburned kernels of powder in the barel so when you change powders without cleaning the barrel these partially-burned and unburned kernels can burn thus adding to the volumn of gas for the shot. After a few shots the original powder residue (partial and unburned) have been replaced with partial and/or unburned kernels of the new powder being tried.....also the main reason for 1st shot flyers after you clean a barrel and why they tell you to never take a "clean" gun hunting.
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05 June 2005, 01:37
cal30 1906I have used some powders in my 22-250
that at the same approx velocity would shoot as low as a couple of inches at 100 yards.
H-870 powder has thrown me for a few loops
regarding this also

(not in the 22-250 though)
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I meant to say tha tI had to adjust down with IMR 4895 and then back up when I changed back to IMR 4064
05 June 2005, 01:49
cal30 1906we knew what ya meant

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