12 November 2002, 13:11
Tanoosegas checks
Whats the story with gas checks , are they to be used with lead bullets when you reach a certain velocity? Ive been shooting cast performance 460 WFNGC from 1200-1500 fps, and was thinking on tring some 500 grain bullets from Oregon Trail but i noticed they were plainj base not gas checkes.
14 November 2002, 03:01
<Don Martin29>I am not sure what cartridge or gun you are loading for?
In my 38-55 schuetzen rifles I shoot plain base and in my .375 H&H and Improved I use gas checked bullets. I don't have a cut off number where to use them or not but the handbooks might suggest one.
14 November 2002, 03:28
LeftoverdjPlain base ought to work fine at those load levels.
My version is that you use gas checks when the mold is cut for them, but you usually don't need a gas checked design for loads less than 1600 fps in a rifle. I have never had any luck shooting gas check bullets without the gas check except in extremely mild loads.
In a straight case, if the bullet you want is only available in plain base, you can go a good bit hotter by using an upside down gas check. I only do this when the GC will touch the powder.
15 November 2002, 06:01
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16 November 2002, 06:48
Paul HUnfortunately it isn't as simple as saying you need gas checks at a certain velocity.
The point at which a gas check provides a benefit to prevent leading is a factor of the guns dimensions, ie throat and bore, bullet dimensions, bullet hardness, operating pressure of the cartridge, and velocity.
As a general rule, plainbase bullets require (I hasten to say tighter) a better match of chamber/bore dimensions, and a more limited range of velocities. Gas check bullets are more tolleranct of dimensional variances in the gun, and can generally be run faster w/o leading.
I'm assuming from your post that you are shooting a 45-70. I'd also guess that at the velocities you are running, you shouldn't have problems with leading.
One thing to note, if you do get leading with the plainbase bullets, run a few gas check bullets through the gun, and they'll take the leading right out.