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Who... has a current burning rate chart
30 November 2001, 06:34
<danev2>Who... has a current burning rate chart
In reading some of the posts below, "reloader 22" etc. I want to know who has the most current burning rate chart published. There have been a number of new powders debuted in the last year or so, and it is useful to know whats out there.
30 November 2001, 06:55
Saeeddanev2,
Welcome to the forum.
The short answer is no one!
If you look at several tables from different sources, you will find that a lot of the powders seem to play musical chairs with their position.
Check the FAQs page on our site, there is a burning rate which we compiled from several sources.
You might like to bear in mind that this is only an indication of their respective buning rate.
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saeed@ emirates.net.ae
www.accuratereloading.com
30 November 2001, 07:05
TXLoaderPowder burn charts seem to be very general, at best. Even between calibers, powders will flip positions on the chart...particularly in the midrange of the chart.
With that, the one offered on Hornady's site seems to be kept up to date.
TXLoader
30 November 2001, 14:53
<Daryl Elder>Burn rates appear to depend on the cartridge and the pressures it operates at. No chart is gospel, only a very rough guideline.
01 December 2001, 05:26
<bobshawn>To all concerned __
I have ceased to use "burning rate" as an indicator of what I can expect from a gunpowder. Winchester-Olin also no longer lists "burning rate" in its' literature. The author of "Quickload" also disputes the validity of "burning rate".
In lieu of that, using real published data, I have compiled tables and charts listing Energy per grain weight (E/gr.) and Velocity per grain weight (V/gr.) for all of the gunpowders, bullets/cartridges, and calibers where sufficient data were available to do so.
A formidable task to be sure. But it gave me something to do while healing, and when ambient conditions precluded loading or shooting.
Nothing more than personal preference and opinions.
Good shooting.
Robert
01 December 2001, 06:44
VibePost it on the board. A link to it anyway. Don't keep us all in suspense.
01 December 2001, 08:40
DutchAren't explosives and propellants rated in linear burn rate, as in feet/sec? Seem to have seen a list, somewhere, to that effect? FWIW, Dutch.
02 December 2001, 05:26
<bobshawn>Vibe __
Thanks for asking. It is an interesting subject. However, the amount of data I've collected is more than just a little bit extensive. For example: There are over 600 data points for IMR 4895 alone, accumulated from every source I could access; manuals, books, web sites, magazines, etc., then compounded into something useful like specifics for bullet weights and calibers.
Secondly, being computer stupid (not just illiterate - really stupid), I have no idea how to boil it all down to something suitable for posting on the board. Sorry 'bout that.
Dutch __
The feet per second numbers given for explosives are supposed to be the rate of expansion of the gas "bubble" in open air; derived from an abstract test. I'm no expert in the matter, so don't take that for gospel.
Good shooting.
Robert
02 December 2001, 09:59
VibeWhat format do you have it in? If it's in MS Excell or some other spreadsheet I'm sure we could find someone who could reduce it or graph it. Send it to me and I'll see what I can do with it. I'm pretty sure Saeed could findd a place to post the finished listing on this website. Not intending to speak for him, but it would be beneficial enough to be a logical addition.
02 December 2001, 10:46
Nickudu110 Powders Ranked Fastest To Slowest
1. R-1 Norma
2. N310, Vihtavuori
3. Bullseye, Alliant
4. N312, Vihtavuori
5. Solo 1000, Accurate
6. Clays, Hodgdon
7. Red Dot, Alliant
8. N318, Vihtavuori
9. Hi-Skor 700X, IMR
10. N320, Vihtavuori
11. Green Dot, Alliant
12. International, Hodgdon
13. No. 2, Accurate
14. N321, Vihtavuori
15. N324, Vihtavuori
16. HP-38, Hodgdon
17. W-231, Winchester
18. N325, Vihtavuori
19. N330, Vihtavuori
20. PB, IMR
21. N331, Vihtavuori
22. No. 5, Accurate
23. Unique, Alliant
24. WSL, Winchester
25. Power Pistol, Alliant
26. Universal, Hodgdon
27. SR-7625, IMR
28. W-473AA, Winchester
29. Herco, Alliant
30. N340, Vihtavuori
31. WSF, Winchester
32. HS-6, Hodgdon
33. W-540, Winchester
34. 3N37, Vihtavuori
35. WAP, Winchester
36. Hi-Skor 800-X, IMR
37. N350, Vihtavuori
38. HS-7, Hodgdon
39. W-571, Winchester
40. No. 7, Accurate
41. Blue Dot, Alliant
42. No. 9, Accurate
43. 2400, Alliant
44. N110, Vihtavuori
45. R-123, Norma
46. H-110, Hodgdon
47. W-296, Winchester
48. SR-4759, IMR
49. N120, Vihtavuori
50. XMP-5744, Accurate
51. IMR-4227, IMR
52. N125, Vihtavuori
53. H-4227, Hodgdon
54. N130, Vihtavuori
55. AAC-1680, Accurate
56. W-680, Winchester
57. N132, Vihtavuori
58. N-200, Norma
59. N133, Vihtavuori
60. IMR-4198, IMR
61. H-4198, Hodgdon
62. XMR-2015, Accurate
63. Reloader 7, Alliant
64. N134, Vihtavuori
65. IMR-3031, IMR
66. Benchmark 1, Hodgdon
67. N-201, Norma
68. H-322, Hodgdon
69. Benchmark 2, Hodgdon
70. AAC-2230, Accurate
71. IMR-4895, IMR
72. H-4895, Hodgdon
73. H-335, Hodgdon
74. BL-C(2), Hodgdon
75. AAC-2460, Accurate
76. W-748, Winchester
77. Reloader 12, Alliant
78. N135, Vihtavuori
79. IMR-4064, IMR
80. Varget, Hodgdon
81. AAC-2520, Accurate
82. N-202, Norma
83. XMR-4064, Accurate
84. IMR-4320, IMR
85. N140, Vihtavuori
86. AAC-2700, Accurate
87. Reloader 15, Alliant
88. H-380, Hodgdon
89. N150, Vihtavuori
90. 203-B, Norma
91. W-760, Winchester
92. H-414, Hodgdon
93. N160, Vihtavuori
94. IMR-4350, IMR
95. H-4350, Hodgdon
96. N-204, Norma
97. Reloader 19, Alliant
98. IMR-4831, IMR
99. XMR-3100, Accurate
100. H-450, Hodgdon
101. H-4831, Hodgdon
102. MRP, Norma
103. N165, Vihtavuori
104. Reloader 22, Alliant
105. IMR-7828, IMR
106. Reloader 25, Alliant
107. H-1000, Hodgdon
108. XMR-8700, Accurate
109. H-870, Hodgdon
110. H-50BMG, Hodgdon
(slowest burn rate)
[This message has been edited by Nickudu (edited 12-02-2001).]
02 December 2001, 14:03
DutchForgot. I've been pulling my hair out over these charts (trying to place H322 while using the VV and Hodgdon charts will do this to you!).
The most useful burn rate listing I have found is the Nosler manual, which lists the powders in order of burn rate in each specific cartridge. It does not have all the relevant powders, but at least the ones they list are in the right order for what I'm trying to accomplish. HTH, Dutch.