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28 May 2007, 19:34
GSP7
Wilson dies
Wilson dies: I dont see any threads. How does it screw into my press? bewildered



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28 May 2007, 19:45
Cheechako
OK, I'll bite and assume you are serious. The short answer - they don't screw into a press. They are used with an arbor press.

Ray


Arizona Mountains
28 May 2007, 19:47
Geo.
L.E. Wilson dies are not made to screw into a normal loading press. The dies are either used with an arbor press, a vise as a press, or with a mallet (and block of hardwood) to pound the case into the die.

When used with a good arbor press, the thrust into the case is very straight and they produce very straight ammo.


Geo.
28 May 2007, 19:56
GSP7
How do you get the case out of the die after its pressed in with a arbor press?
28 May 2007, 20:37
Cheechako
The same way as you got it in, only opposite.

Think of Wilson dies as a very expensive Lee Loader

Ray


Arizona Mountains
28 May 2007, 20:50
Idaho Sharpshooter
the decapping rod after you necksize, the seating stem after you seat the bullet. That is why you need the arbor press and the little footstool-looking thing with the recessed hole in the middle that the case fits in and the smaller hole all the way thru that the primer falls out of.
Some of the newer arbor press die sets I have by CPS (Neil Jones) have a micrometer seating head and a little slot on the side you just flip the round out with a baby screwdriver.

Rich
DRSS
29 May 2007, 04:31
DMB
I've switched over to Wilson Dies for all of my calibers, or Wilson equivalents, like Neil Jones, or custom made Wilson type dies.
Fot neck sizing, I use a small screw driver to get the case out of the die, or use the depriming punch that's in the die to push the case out, very fast.
For bullet seating, if the round doesn't fall out of the die after seating the bullet, a small screw driver flips it right out.
The big plus with these type dies is straight ammo, with little runout.
The accuracy I get with loads from these dies justifies using them.
I have a B-Square arbor press for seating bullets, and use a rawhide hammer for depriming and neck sizing.
Once you get used to these dies, you'll never go back.
One more thing. I make up dummy rounds with the different bullets I use for each chambering so seating die set-up is a snap.

Don




29 May 2007, 04:46
GSP7
Id like to see a video of someone thats good at it.

Do you have to load your powder charge one at a time just before seating each bullet ?

Or can you weight and load all your powder with your brass in a loading block
29 May 2007, 13:21
Kiwi Vince
laod them all at once in a loading block.

If you are loading rifle most charges almost fill the case so when finished putting powder in its easy to shine a torch over them to ensure there is a charge of approximately the right amount in each case.

If loading pistol cases it is sometimes real easy to double charge them and this can obviously be disastrous. Being awake, sober and using methodical work habits and no distractions would be a good start! No offence intended with last sentence.
30 May 2007, 03:22
Winchester 69
BULLETIN!!!

"If you are loading rifle most charges almost fill the case so when finished putting powder in its easy to shine a torch over them to ensure there is a charge of approximately the right amount in each case."

The term "TORCH" is Austrailian for flashlight. Open flames will disturb the reloading process.
30 May 2007, 21:35
Trez Hensley
quote:
The term "TORCH" is Austrailian for flashlight. Open flames will disturb the reloading process.


BIG TIME....WA HOOOO Eeker Eeker Eeker

Looking inside with the wrong tool definition could be a "Puff no eyebrows" moment or quite a bit worse. Burns just aren't any fun Frowner

Kind of like lighting a gas covered brush pile.... but I'm sure no one else has ever done that as a kid...or adult?? dancing dancing run away--run away!!! Ya just can't move fast enough Or at least I didn't. No ongoing damage I'm glad to say. nilly


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30 May 2007, 22:56
ireload2
I am sure dry Christmas tree needles would substitute for 4831.
31 May 2007, 00:39
KenOehler
I've been using Wilson or similar dies for many years. Along the way I learned to simply hammer unprimed cased into the neck sizing die and to then use a long de-primer punch to knock the sized case out of the die. With a sharp tap, the case is deprimed in the same operation.

I seat bullets without a press; just a shove down the seating "stem" by hand. To remove the loaded round from the seating die, simply pull the seating stem most of the way out of the die and then slap it back in. Enough air is trapped between stem and bullet to eject the round.

KenO


As it was explained to me many years ago, "I feel sorry for those who think ballistics is an exact science. They just don't understand the problems."
31 May 2007, 10:15
shootaway
I use them for almost all my reloading.They will rust like crazy if they are kept out in some humid or cold damp room without being oiled continously.They must be stored in a dry place inside their box in some container and oiled.
31 May 2007, 10:59
Kiwi Vince
Sorry guys, half a world away here a torch is an electric flashlight like a maglite, etc.

A hand held tube that emits a gas flame we call a gas torch!

DONT use the last item!!!!

I stand by my suggestion of checking all charges and apologise for the possible misunderstanding.

I hope anyone reading this applied commonsense.

If not, send your address so I can send a Get Well card
31 May 2007, 20:04
DMB
quote:
Originally posted by Kiwi Vince:
Sorry guys, half a world away here a torch is an electric flashlight like a maglite, etc.

A hand held tube that emits a gas flame we call a gas torch!

DONT use the last item!!!!

I stand by my suggestion of checking all charges and apologise for the possible misunderstanding.

I hope anyone reading this applied commonsense.

If not, send your address so I can send a Get Well card


I also keep a "torch" at my loading bench to use for checking cases to make sure they all have powder in them.. Haven't had an explosion yet.. jumping


Don