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Need a starting point for. 452 360 grain won cast in a 45 colt...

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30 August 2021, 10:00
cal30 1906
Need a starting point for. 452 360 grain won cast in a 45 colt...
I have looked around various sights for loading up these heavy bullets in the 45 redhawk and haven't found much.
I think someone here might have played with them at one point and might steer me in the right direction. I would be interested in using them in my 450 bushmaster also if anyone has data for that, it's a ruger American bolt action so it will digest somewhat heavier loads than an ar platform.




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30 August 2021, 18:49
dpcd
40 grains, 3fg powder. Back when gunpowder was only one thing.
For heavy bullet loads in the 450, contact Thebackforty, here on AR. He has done a lot of such things and has killed many bears with them. Speaking of 450 bolt actions, I have built 7 of them in the past year; I want to try heavy bullets but no time. I'll post a picture of them on the gunsmithing page.
30 August 2021, 22:56
Luckyducker
I am not certain of a load for the 45LC with a 360, but what I found shooting 335 grain cast bullets from my 45 Vaquero was that using 45LC brass the bullets would jump crimp. I started using 454Casull brass cut down to 45 case length. I ended up with an accurate load using 23.5 grains of H110 for a velocity of 1190 ft/sec. The hardest element of finding a good shooting load was the small rifle primer that would work, and settled on Magtech small rifle primer #7 1/2. I didn't find any load data and don't know if it even exists, but flew by the "seat of my pants". Good luck


Dennis
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31 August 2021, 04:00
TX Nimrod
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
40 grains, 3fg powder. Back when gunpowder was only one thing….


Sadly, I doubt that 40 grains of holy black will fit under a 360-grain bullet. But a nice sentiment nonetheless.


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31 August 2021, 10:42
georgeld
Never tried any that heavy.

I shoot a 7 1/2" Blackhawk with
Hogue rubber grips.

I load 20gr H110 for 320's.
Good stout enough load for me.
I tried 25 gr and too much twist.
Recoil would be tolerable if not
for the twisting. Don't take many
to hurt my wrist. When I go, I like
to shoot a couple hundred, sometimes
more in a couple hours. I can handle
20gr fine as it don't twist.

Start about there and adjust to how
you feel is right. Be safe, then have fun.
A chronograph is your friend.

George


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George L. Dwight
31 August 2021, 20:42
cal30 1906
George
That's about where I was going to start. Currently the load will 300 jacketed bullets and 310 grain cast is 24.0 grains of H110 and it is a definite thumper that has a bit of recoil but nothing truly punishing. If I had to have anything more powerful I would probably get a 454 .
I just happened upon these from a member here and thought I would give them a try.




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01 September 2021, 02:44
Live Oak
I have some old LBT 360 grain hard cast bullets. Enclosed in the box is this starting load data.

Hope this helps!
01 September 2021, 02:56
cal30 1906
Live oak
Thanks that's about where I planned to start.




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03 September 2021, 01:12
whelenite
Accurate's new No. 11 FS powder shows 17.9 gr. to start, and 21.1 gr. as max at 29.7 kpsi with the CP 360 WFNGC at 1.67" OAL. Max velocity is 1231 fps.
04 September 2021, 16:26
cal30 1906
I'm not familiar with that power and probably won't see it anytime soon with the current affairs.
I have titegroup, unique and bullseye but probably won't use them but I do have H110 and Imr 4227 that I will try but haven't found anything listing the 4227.
And that bullet you listed is the exact one I have to play with.




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06 September 2021, 02:03
whelenite
Hodgdon's RDC has the load for H110 and 4227 (other than lot to lot differences, IMR4227 and H4227 are the same).

https://shop.hodgdon.com/reloading-data-center