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18 May 2018, 04:23
Larry Matherne
squirrels the hard way
Three years ago I acquired a fusil de chasse flintlock smoothbore. This would be the firearm my ancestors would have brought to New France. It is a 20ga./.62cal shotgun sort of. The first year I killed one squirrel and the next year I killed three. I had great difficulty finding the right components to make it kill beyond 10 yds. Finally Spanish moss as wadding seemed to hold the shot together and I could reach out maybe twenty yards or so. This past year I killed 33 squirrels with this combination.




18 May 2018, 15:54
p dog shooter
I am sure it makes hunting very interesting.
19 May 2018, 04:40
Larry Matherne
It does. I got into them fairly thick at one point, shooting and reloading as fast as I could. That is until I forgot to add powder to one load, which brought things to a halt for a bit.
19 May 2018, 20:53
Biebs
Now that's hunting!
24 June 2018, 21:56
Steve up North
Outstanding!
01 July 2018, 06:01
Larry Matherne
Thanks
14 July 2018, 23:19
Mike_Dettorre
You got a recipe for squirrels? care to share it?


Mike



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15 July 2018, 08:29
Larry Matherne
Well Mike I don't have a receipt but I cook my squirrels in what We call a friscasse'. You start by making a roux, then Brown an onion or two in the roux. Add water, squirrels (quarted) , season to taste and summer until squirrels are tender.
22 July 2018, 00:25
packrattusnongratus
I have a recipe. Remove the entrails and head as you shoot them. Keep the meat cool. Bring to kitchen skinned. Put one 15 oz bottle of Worcestershire and same size bottle of Soy sauce in a large bowl. Put squirrel in bowl with marinade and soak for 20 minutes or more. Start smoker and place marinated squirrel on racks. Smoke until done, to taste. Time always varies with each smoker. A hot one will cook faster. Enjoy. This usually works with tough old boar squirrels and tenderizes them well. I used to start the smoker then butcher some domestic rabbits, rinse in salty vineagar water to remove hairs, marinate and place on smoker with a hot fire. It spoiled me on wild rabbit because I produced rabbits with no wild taste and larger size. Good luck with your efforts.
22 July 2018, 08:21
Larry Matherne
I will try it.
24 July 2018, 04:09
Bobster
Pan fried squirrel with gravy

1. Skin, quarter and wash meat. Soak covered in the refrigerator for 24 hrs with a half cup of salt and quarter cup of sugar. Enough water to cover.
2. Put quarters in a 4-6 qt pressure cooker
3. Add 2 cups chicken broth, salt & pepper
4. Cook on 15 psi for 10 minutes
5. Cool and remove meat, reserve liquid
6. Flour meat and season with salt pepper and paprika with some garlic powder if you like
7. Fry at 350 F in a skillet using fat of choice until browned on both sides. Beef suet is the best.
8. Remove meat and make gravy.
9. Add flour to fat and make a roux. About medium color.
10. Add reserved liquid and whisk to make gravy.
11. Add squirrel meat back, cover and simmer for 30 min.
12. Serve with rice or biscuits.
24 July 2018, 07:18
Larry Matherne
A traditional Southern dish, loved by many. You're looks better than most however.
26 July 2018, 21:09
Gatogordo
We've cooked a lot of squirrels over the years, but the problem was many of them were tough as whang leather. So, starting with my grandmother, we "par-boiled" them before frying. One could do this in a sauce pot or the best method is to use a pressure cooker, then fry them as above. Yummy.

OTOH, if I had to use a flintlock for squirrels, I'd give up. My hat is way off to someone who is determined enough to hunt them that way. My favorite method used to be a scoped Python with .38 wadcutters. Now I mostly use a scoped .22.


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27 July 2018, 01:52
Larry Matherne
Taking squirrels with a handgun is not so easy either. But the good thing about either method is there isn't a large pile of tree rats to clean. My mom often used a pressure cooker when dealing with squirrels. I don't , I will let them simmer in a roux until tender. What I get is the younger squirrels will come apart by the time the older ones become tender. Just need to what out for bones in the friscasse'.
20 August 2018, 18:01
wildcat junkie
When I lived in Southern Indiana in the 1980s/'90s killing a limit of squirrels with a scope sighted .22lr became so routine I would be disappointed if I didn't "limit out".

I built an iron mounted .36 flintlock "Tennessee" rifle. On the occasions that I managed to bring 2 grays to bag, I felt like I had really accomplished something.

Given my eyesight, stalking to within 20yds or less with a sapling for an improvised rest was necessary for consistent head shots.


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30 August 2018, 12:26
packrattusnongratus
WJ I think flint is the way to go. I have always used caplocks as I am too lazy to learn the longer follow through of the flint. Those are some beautiful rifles. I still have a Douglass XX octagon barrel in .32 waiting for the right stock style. I think a Bedford County style in .32 flint would be a marvelous squirrel rifle.
07 September 2018, 17:39
wildcat junkie
quote:
Originally posted by packrattusnongratus:
WJ I think flint is the way to go. I have always used caplocks as I am too lazy to learn the longer follow through of the flint. Those are some beautiful rifles. I still have a Douglass XX octagon barrel in .32 waiting for the right stock style. I think a Bedford County style in .32 flint would be a marvelous squirrel rifle.


Going smaller than .36 can offer challenges with a flintlock. Not saying it isn't practical, but you must pay attention to the location of the pan/touchhole and keep charges stout enough to blow the touchhole/pan clean.

Also, smaller calibers should have a fast twist. My .36 has 1 in 48" twist and I can load "subsonic" loads that still provide tack driving accuracy. The 1st barrel was 1 in 66" and I had to load it up so much to get sufficient accuracy that it was too damaging to the meat.

I used a 20gr load of fffg behind a .350 rb. It sounded a lot like 22 SV when shooting. No loud crack and it left a neat hole in the squirrel's neck/head instead of blowing it off.


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25 September 2018, 05:23
3:10
I used to hunt them with a TC .32 cal Cherokee. That was really difficult, I can't imagine using a flintlock. Another rifle I foolishly sold that I wish I had back.
26 September 2018, 20:14
wildcat junkie
quote:
Originally posted by 3:10:
I used to hunt them with a TC .32 cal Cherokee. That was really difficult, I can't imagine using a flintlock. Another rifle I foolishly sold that I wish I had back.


I had a .36 TC Seneca that I foolishly traded for a botched .36 Flintlock Pennsylvania rifle.


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