27 February 2004, 19:53
Lar45bottom pour smelting pot.
Hi all, I whipped up a bottom pour smelting pot tonight. I stopped by the local steel place and picked up a piece of 10" well caseing that was 12" long and a plate to weld onto the bottom of it. I drilled a hole in the plate and welded in a 3/8x1/4 pipe reducer bushing. I turned down a 1/2" bolt with a taper on the end to use for my valve. I put a shot nipple on the bottom to pour from and set it on the turkey cooker. I dumped in 1/2 bucket of WW and set the propane to work. I used a weed burner to get things going faster. Once the unit was up to heat things went pretty quick. I have about 16 2lb ingot molds and was wishing that I had more. I went through a bucket full in no time and have a nice pile of fresh ingots on the garage floor. I'll take some pics tomorrow when it's light. The valve does leak a little, but I have a pan under it to catch the drips. I think the smelter is too tall at 12". I will probably take the torch to it tomorrow and cut it down to 8" or so to make it easer to get the clips out.
28 February 2004, 09:53
John MGreat idea. I use a similar set up for smelting with a 10" pipecap and 7" of 10" pipe welded on to it then dip with a soup ladle from Goodwill. I added legs on mine from 3/4" angle iron but I'm not sure they are necessary. Gianni.
28 February 2004, 10:29
<Guest>That's fun Lar.....kinda makes me want to go get a welding kit.....
28 February 2004, 11:30
Lar45BLT I have the Lincoln Weld Pack 125. It's a 110 wire feed machine. You can get them at Home depot for under $200. I also have a big Lincoln 225 stick welder for heavy stuff, but the small wirefeed really is handy to have.
28 February 2004, 12:40
grumbleThere are four things that every man needs:
-a 2-lb hammer
-a 16" crescent wrench
-a Winchester thutty-thutty
and
-a welder
A man without these things can never be complete.
28 February 2004, 13:09
TCLouisMy smelting/alloying pot is 2/3 of a 15 gallon waterheater cut lengthwise.
The heat source is limbs and brush picked up around the place.
Ingot molds are 1 1/2"X1 1/2"X1/8" angle iron welded up (quite by accident) to yield ingots of 1 pound on the average over a full pour (roughly 200-350 depending on my sources for that pour)!
My pouring ladle is a 2 quart HEAVY sauce pan with extended rebar handle. I had thought of making a pouring spout for my rig, but they burn out often enough to preclude much effort. I have scrounged up a sheet of 1/4" plate to make the next one and may put a spout in it as I plan to make it into a triangular shape.
Long clothes, full face shield and welders gloves are a must when aroud this much lead.

Ingots are piled in piles by pour for a "lot" of lead/lead alloy. If I pour carefully the triangle shape can be stacked neatly into a small pile that contains a LOT of lead.
You mean some folks survive without owning a welder . . . Dang that is what the government means when they speak of the underprivledged class

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28 February 2004, 16:20
IceHoleKenI use an old cast iron roasting pot for making up igots. I tried the turkey cooker burner also, but found it didnt really heat that fast and used lots of propane. I bought a Coleman one burner propane heater ($20) and made up a stand for it, and hooked it to the 20 pound tank. It works a lot better and dosent use near the propane.
I agree, everyone needs a welder, even if just the cheap mig outfit. I make my igot molds, and it seems everyday there is something to be made.
28 February 2004, 18:38
Lar45What kind of Coleman burner/heater are you useing? I'm drawing a blank on trying to think of what it is. I wouldn't mind something more effecient. Mine seems to put out lots of heat though and now I've got the weed burner to jump start it. I still need to get an old hot plate for the casting bench though.
04 March 2004, 10:30
IceHoleKenIts just the one burner propane stove that you buy in the camping dept, its made to mount on a 1# propane tank. I just bought the adapter to run to a 20#er, and made a stand for it.
I agree the turkey fryer puts out a lot of heat, but it is too spread out or too low (I aint figured it out).
I jump start sometimes with the oxy-acetelyne torch also.
The torch works great for smoking the molds, just turn off the oxygen and use just the acetlyne, it smokes like crazy!
04 March 2004, 16:03
Lar45Here are some pics of my smelter.
I went through 5 buckets in about 2.5 hours. The bottom pour spout really speeds things up.

04 March 2004, 23:00
Ed BarrettYou look like you are working that little kid pretty hard. I hope you are paying him "minimum wage" at the very least. <GGG>
05 March 2004, 07:59
Lar452 hotdogs and a box of mac-n-cheese will keep him going all afternoon.
