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Marques de Sade
07 November 2007, 17:21
Guillermo AmestoyMarques de Sade
A year ago I ordered a 600 grains Mould from Mountain Mould inc.

, for my 500 S&W, May be, all of you are starting to think that Im a kind sort of Handgun masoquist

....may be

.I used w-w- alloy hardened (WQ), anneling cooper gas-check and lyman orange lube, size to 12,70 mm (.50") in front of a Large rifle primer and 35 grains of W-W 296 powder.
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What about the velocity= 1350 fps= Pain

, about the recoil=PAINNNNNN

, about the accuracy 2" at 25 yards with boths eyes closed!!!

, finally it broked a nice hogue cocobolo grip

, surely "it" wanted to do the same with my wrist

, so I changed to a local powder
(litle fast) and stayed at 1000 fps with a 4 shot in a hole a 25 yards with iron.
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Soon I will try to take a water bufalo with this load Im only waiting that my new Leupy scope arrived, I hope all of you enjoy my insane experiences

.Regards; Guillermo.
"Every ignored reallity prepares its revenge!"
07 November 2007, 18:03
Martin GodioGuillermo,
Thats a BIG BULLET. You will need more than one buffalo to stop it. LOL.
Martin
Double Rifle Shooters Society member from Argentina.
My doubles:
.577 Snider by W.Richards.
.58" ML by Pedersoli
07 November 2007, 19:26
Guillermo Amestoyquote:
Originally posted by Martin Godio:
Guillermo,
Thats a BIG BULLET. You will need more than one buffalo to stop it. LOL.
Martin
Welcome to the ARF forum family is a pleasure to have another compatriot with us, yes!!! and may be I need a wall behind me to support the cartrige/gun combination!!!
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07 November 2007, 23:36
arkypeteThat's got to pack one heck of a lot of recoil.
Do you also like to wear sweaters made out of barbed wire?
My hands ache just thinking about it,
Jim
"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson
08 November 2007, 02:53
Guillermo Amestoyquote:
Originally posted by arkypete:
Do you also like to wear sweaters made out of barbed wire?
Jim

"Every ignored reallity prepares its revenge!"
08 November 2007, 16:25
arkypetequote:
Originally posted by Guillermo Amestoy:
quote:
Originally posted by arkypete:
Do you also like to wear sweaters made out of barbed wire?
Jim
What will you hunting with the baby cannon?
Jim
"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson
09 November 2007, 02:34
DECOnly 600gr?

You should have gone with the 700grainer. Here's some of what I've put through my 500's. I own five different models. The 700gr slug is standing in the far right corner. The largest slug I know of is the John Ross design, which is the original big bore, and it weighs in at 725gr.
09 November 2007, 20:52
Guillermo Amestoy[QUOTE]Originally posted by DEC:
Only 600gr?

You should have gone with the 700grainer. Here's some of what I've put through my 500's. I own five different models. The 700gr slug is standing in the far right corner. The largest slug I know of is the John Ross design, which is the original big bore, and it weighs in at 725gr.
And I thought that I was crazy..... :

!!!

"Every ignored reallity prepares its revenge!"
10 November 2007, 02:08
DECI'm not crazy, I just like to feel the rush

10 November 2007, 04:06
Guillermo Amestoyquote:
Originally posted by DEC:
I'm not crazy, I just like to feel the rush
rush yeaaaa!!! but if the bullets goes faster than 1000 fps, wrist pain too!!!
"Every ignored reallity prepares its revenge!"
11 November 2007, 00:47
ArminiusThe title should be corrected.
"( Alexander von ?? ) Sacher - Masoch" would be appropriate.
"Marquis de Sade" is something else ... perhaps applicable, if you hit something, but bad ...
H
formerly, before software update, known as "aHunter", lost 1000 posts in a minute
11 November 2007, 22:08
Guillermo Amestoyquote:
Originally posted by Arminius:
The title should be corrected.
"( Alexander von ?? ) Sacher - Masoch" would be appropriate.
"Marquis de Sade" is something else ... perhaps applicable, if you hit something, but bad ...
H

"Every ignored reallity prepares its revenge!"
12 November 2007, 05:15
DECquote:
rush yeaaaa!!! but if the bullets goes faster than 1000 fps, wrist pain too!!!
I've never actually felt any wrist pain and I've pushed 300gr slugs over 2200pfs and 700gr slugs at almost 1400fps.
The only time I encountered pain is when I shot the 700gr slugs out of my 2 3/4" ES Alaskan snubby

Don't ask why, I guess I just needed to find out for myself

When the first shot ran out ALL of the fingers on my shooting hand felt immediate pain and I think I broke a blood vessel in my trigger finger. They all stung like hell and my trigger finger almost went numb! I'm assuming it was from the recoil impulse slaming into them. Anyway I did manage to fire all five of them before quitting.
12 November 2007, 06:04
Guillermo Amestoy[QUOTE]Originally posted by DEC:
When the first shot ran.... felt immediate pain and I think I broke a blood vessel in my trigger finger.....

I dont know how old are you (Me 39)but some day your bones will remember you that shooting experiences, ask to an a old karate brick broker!!! Regards. Gmo
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12 November 2007, 06:44
NEJackMan! And people that I was nuts for using a .454!
Do you guys wear wrist braces?
12 November 2007, 08:14
DECGuillermo, I'm 50yrs old and have been shooting big bore handguns for about 30yrs.
I don't wear a wrist brace but I do use shooting gloves and my bones are already reminding me

What impresses me is all of those guys shooting the big bore rifles. My shoulder just doesn't like the punishment anymore (never really did). I've got a Rem 700 Safari Grade I haven't shot in about 20yrs. I don't even like shooting a 12ga slug. I guess that's why I stick to my handguns.
12 November 2007, 20:14
Guillermo Amestoy[QUOTE]Originally posted by DEC:
....my bones are already reminding me

You are smart guy !!! Thats the point that I want to arrived.
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QUOTE]Originally posted by DEC:
shooting the big bore rifles. My shoulder just doesn't like the punishment
Me neither (I have a 416 Rigby and a 458 Lott), but is the only way to stop a huge animal at charge !!! otherwise you must use muzzlebreaks and when the time passed... you will be unable to hear, unless you were using ears mufflers old the time! during the hunt - Not practical !!! ) and mercury recoil reducers
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QUOTE]Originally posted by DEC:
I don't even like shooting a 12ga slug.
I changed to a Semi-automatic, but in this case you have to use eyes protection to keep aways fron the eyes the hot burning particules and gases that out from the chamber when the shotgun eyect the shell, whith front wind most (A friend of mine (Shotgun Marksman) have a lot miscroscopic injuries (ulcer) at his eyes (corneas) for not use eye protection, and he know the bads news with a occasional eye doctor visit.
But what the hecks!!! whe are doing that we like !!!
Regarding "the man age" Im wondering how the Rolling Stones (All passed the 60 years) are in good shape besides undreds R&R trips plenty of drugs, alcohols, sex partys, I think the key is the excercise, they are all the time jumping in the scene and can afford the best medical attention in the world !!!
A plesure, Regars Guillermo.
"Every ignored reallity prepares its revenge!"
22 November 2007, 20:49
ireload2quote:
Im wondering how the Rolling Stones (All passed the 60 years) are in good shape
From the looks of it, I think Keith Richard's head has worn out several bodies.
23 November 2007, 00:14
RicochetHis head looks pretty worn, too...
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."