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to size or not to size(.44)
08 September 2005, 23:06
brass thiefto size or not to size(.44)
i"ve just got my 300gr lee mold. it"s throwing
about .433"
i"m just going out now to check all my measurements again, but i the "front end" of my cylinder is around .430"
up to now, in lead bullets i"ve been buying lead bullets which are supposed to be 429", but are at least a thou larger.
is it safe to fire an over size bullet? do i need to size?(accuracy aside for now)
i"ve loaded a few rounds, and they do chamber, but they"re a little tight.(slight bulging of the case.
so far i"ve just used 9mm bullets for lead, hope to chase some ww"s this weekend.
do i need a sizer?
good shooting
08 September 2005, 23:12
Paul HSo long as they chamber, shoot em. I'm suprised that mold is dropping so large, as I recall mine dropped .430" when cast w/ ww's.
It is a very good bullet, I've yeat to hear of anyone that didn't get good accuracy with it.
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09 September 2005, 02:44
brass thiefthanks, i"ll try to get some ww"s as well.
09 September 2005, 02:46
ScrollcutterModern thinking of shooting cast bullets in revolvers is to size the bullet to the cylinder throat, or .0005 larger (Good luck trying to find a sizer that will hold that tolerance).
My Smith throats measure a tad over .433. Unfortunately, the chambers won't accommodate a bullet much over .4315. My solution was to size a GC bullet of heavy weight to .431. No leading at top speed of 1225 with a 320 grain SWCGC.
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09 September 2005, 03:05
Leftoverdjquote:
Originally posted by Paul H:
So long as they chamber, shoot em. I'm suprised that mold is dropping so large, as I recall mine dropped .430" when cast w/ ww's.
It is a very good bullet, I've yeat to hear of anyone that didn't get good accuracy with it.
There's an exception, Paul. The Lee C430-310-RF will not shoot worth a whoop in Marlin and NEF .44 Mags with their 1-38" twist barrels. I'm told that it does work well in the .444s with their far higher velocities.
Might be some other slow twist barrels I don't know about, but those I'm sure of.
Lee specs their moulds as nominal to +.003. Using lino would make .44 bullets about .0015 fatter than WW. Casting temp makes a difference, too. Hotter alloy shrinks a bit more on cooling.
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09 September 2005, 04:32
Paul HMy bad, I was thinking in terms of revolvers and had forgotton the rifles. In revolvers, and a 10" contender I tried, the bullets shoot very accurately, as good as any other cast bullet design.
It's a pity the rifle manufacturers went with the slow twist, because the 44 mag rifle and especially 444 can really put the heavier cast bullets to good use.
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11 September 2005, 00:24
bm-3If you drive the Lee 310 gr hard in the new Marlin, they do shoot, and very well at that. I have two Marlines one is new and the other is getting rebarreled to 1:16 to shoot the heaver bullets.