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01 February 2007, 01:21
Dago Red
Public land around Coalinga? or reasonable price guide?
What I would really like to find is some public land out around coalinga which I hear is a good pig area. I have some friends out there that I asked to talk to others and see if they knew any private property where people needed a hand with the pigs. But public would be great, anybody know any areas?

Alternatively, anybody know any affordable guides? I went with Willoughby one time, but wonder what else is available. 450 was the cost then, not what I would like to pay but didn't seem out of line considering concessions, time, etc. etc. But more than that starts getting crazy IMHO.

Thanks guys.

Red


My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.
-Winston Churchill
01 February 2007, 03:39
R Flowers
Well, there is public land out near Coalinga that has pigs on it but there a few problems.

First of all, it is hard to tell just what is public and what is private land out there. AND, the stuff that is public is pretty much straight up and down and brushy as hell.

There are a fair number of pigs on Fort Hunter Liggett, but the same thing applies. The terrain is rough and the brush is awfull.

And yes, Tom Willhouby is pricey, but that is the going rate these days. A guy could go on lots of hunts and get nothing or pay a guide and pretty sure of killing a hog. I have yet to go with Tom or Roger Miller and not have plenty of opportunities to kill a hog.

Damned cheap compared to an out of state deer or elk hunt these days.


R Flowers
01 February 2007, 03:55
Dago Red
I was saying tom was reasonable. I think more than that is getting out of hand. With Tom the best part was the 4x4 ride, he should run his place as an adventure park Big Grin

Red


My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.
-Winston Churchill
01 February 2007, 05:55
N E 450 No2
I will be in the LA area in California in Feb.
If you guys can find a good place to hunt hogs I might be able to hunt with ya'll around the end of Feb/first of March.


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01 February 2007, 08:35
Dago Red
I'm working on finding a place. got one more friend from out in that area to ask, might even talk to my mom who has a friend or two out there. will keep you all posted as to what materializes.

Red


My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.
-Winston Churchill
01 February 2007, 23:46
Paul C
Check with Camp 5 outfitters in Bradley. I have hunted with them four times in the last 5 years and they know their stuff.

Paul C.
02 February 2007, 04:07
D. Nelson
I'm sure this is much more info than you want, but got it off the Internet.

The following is a comprehensive list of guides and outfitters for the whole state. It has been provided by California Hog Hunter, the Outdoor News Service’s no-advertising, quarterly newsletter that covers just hog hunting in the Golden State, featuring honest critiques of the different guide operations throughout the state. [Editor’s note: the newsletter is available at Turner’s Outdoorsman stores in Southern California or by $20 annual subscription by writing to California Hog Hunter, P.O. Box 9007, San Bernardino, CA 92427-0007.]

Anderson Taxidermy & Guide Service, 13600 Old Morro Rd., Atascadero, CA 93442. Contact: Don Anderson. Telephone: (805) 466-3240. E-mail address: andersontaxidermy@thegrid.net.
Antelope Valley Hunting Club, 4165 LaGrande Road, Williams, CA 95987. Contact: John Alvernaz. Telephone: (530) 473-2790.
Arrow Five Outfitters, Star Route 1, Box 64A, Zenia, CA 95595. Contact: Jim or TinaMarie Schaafsma. Telephone: (707) 923-9633. E-mail: arrow5@cwnet.com.
B&B Outfitting and Guide Service, 813 Coastal Ct., Los Banos, CA 93635. Contact: Bill Marchese. Telephone: (209) 827-6193. E-Mail address: winchester@cell2000.net.
Jack Beghl's Guide Service, 403 N. Suey Road, Santa Maria, CA 93454. Contact: Jack Beghl. Telephone: (805) 928-5376.
Eldon Bergman, P.O. Box 1175, Templeton, CA 93465. Telephone: (805) 238-5504.
Mike Berry Guide Service, 2312 Castro Lane, Bakersfield, CA 93304. Contact: Mike Berry. Telephone: (661) 397-7008.
Big Country Outfitters, 1882 E. Larch St., Simi, CA 93065. Contact: Don Smith or Art Cane. Telephone: (805) 584-6283.
Bighorn Ranch, 38061 Kehl Canyon Road, Cherry Valley, CA 92223. Contact: Chuck or Jim Wagner. Telephone: (909) 845-2754.
Blue Ridge Guide Service, 46438 Blue Ridge Drive, Springville, CA 93265. Contact: Bill Sweetser. Telephone: (559) 539-5102. E-mail address: blueridge@jps.net.
Boar Busters Guide Service, P.O. Box 41, San Lucas, CA 93954. Contact: Teddy McCormack. Telephone: (831) 382-4837.
Boaring Experiences Unlimited, P.O. Box 398, Atascadero, CA 93423. Contact: Kyler Hamann. Telephone: (805) 461-0294. E-mail: khamann@boaring.com.
Boar's Breath Guide Service, 1176 Buchon, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401. Contact: Jeff Wolcott. Telephone: (805) 543-6046.
Burrows Ranch, 12250 Colyear Springs Road, Red Bluff, CA 96080. Contact: Bill Burrows. Telephone: (530) 529-1535.
Busby's Hog Service, 165 Old Stage Rd., Salinas, CA 93908. Contact: Wayne Busby. Telephone: (831) 443-5864.
California Wild Sports, 1807 6th Street, Lincoln, CA 95648. Contact: Pat Flaherty. Telephone: (916) 434-9555.
Call Mountain Guide Service, 1600 Old Airline Highway, Paicines, CA 95043. Contacts: Jack Clark or Steve Sweet. Telephone: (831) 389-4535 (Clark) or (831) 663-4346 (Sweet).
Cal-Quest Outfitters (Rancho San Julian), 1527 Kowalski Avenue, Santa Barbara, CA 93101. Contact: Brady Daniels. Telephone: (805) 560-6582 or (805) 878-5958.
Camp 5 Outfitters, P. O. Box 121, Lockwood, CA 93922. Contact: Doug Roth or Craig Rossier. Telephones: (805) 237-1201 or (831) 386-0727.
Carnaza Hunting Adventures, 7373 Carnaza Road, Santa Margarita, CA 93453. Contact: Alex Kuhnle. Telephone: (805) 475-2341.
Cedar Canyon Outdoor Adventures, 3 Blackburn Ct., Paso Robles, CA 93446. Contact: Jim Davis. Telephone: (805) 238-6557.
Central Coast Outfitters, 1520 E. Donovan Road, Santa Maria, CA 93454. Contact: Alfred Luis. Telephone: (805) 922-7923.
Circle F Ranch, 23337 Fish Rock Road, Yorkville, CA 95494. Contact: Kevin FioRito. Telephone: (707) 895-3895.
Craig's Guide Service, P.O. Box 188, Kelseyville, CA 95451. Contact: Craig Van Housen. Telephone: (707) 279-0422.
Cross Country Outfitters, P.O. Box 3904, Paso Robles, CA 93447. Contact: Tom or August Harden. Telephone: (805) 467-3947. E-Mail address: kf6gnm@tcsn.net
Devil's Canyon Guide Service, 10945 Old Hernandez Road, Paicines, CA 95043. Contact: Mike or Heike Baumgartner. Telephone: (831) 385-6155. E-mail address: boarslayers_r_us@yahoo.com.
Duncan Guide Service, 3083 Brim Rd., Williams, CA 95987. Contact: Richard Duncan. Telephone: (530) 473-5047.
Easterbrook Ranch, 69621 Vineyard Canyon Road, San Miguel, CA 93451. Contact: Sheryl Easterbrook. Telephone: (805) 463-2476. E-mail address: easterbrook@bigplanet.com.
Golden Tusk Guide Service, 224 Panorama Drive, Paso Robles, CA 93446. Contacts: Tom or Steven Wells. Telephone: (805) 238-7272 (days) or (805) 238-2498 evenings.
Mike Hayes' Guide Service, 7763 Berta Road, Eureka, CA 95503. Contact: Mike Hayes. Telephone: (707) 442-2191.
Helicopter Fly-In Hunting Services, 327 Rossi Street, Salinas, CA 93907. Contact: Vic Massolo. Telephone: (831) 422-1521.
Hillside Hog Heaven, Skaggs Spring Road, Annapolis, CA 95412. Contact: Robert Larson. Telephone: (707) 847-3727.
Hog Heaven, 29568 Chualar Canyon Road, Chualar, CA 93925. Contact: Scott Wilkinson. Telephone: (831) 679-2854.
Hog Wild, Mark Williams' Hunting and Booking Service, P.O. Box 1496, King City, CA 93930. Contact: Mark Williams. Telephone (831) 385-6321.
Hogs Wild, P.O. Box 355, Coalinga, CA 93210. Contact: Larry Greve. Telephone: (559) 935-5788.
Don Ingalls, 53100 Pine Canyon Road, King City, CA 93930. Telephone: (831) 385-3754.
Jack Ranch Hunts, 77502 Hog Canyon Road, San Miguel, CA 93451. Contact: Bert Claassen. Telephone: (805) 467-3262.
King Connection, 2740 Reeves Lane, Lakeport, CA 95453. Contact: Terry Manthey. Telephone: (707) 263-8856.
Lassen Guns and Guides, P.O. Box 1483, Susanville, CA 96130. Contact: Mark Paul. Telephone: (530) 257-7454.
Las Viboras Wild Boar Hunts, 5420 Comstock Road, No. B, Hollister, CA 95023. Contact: Ed Sparling.Telephone: (831) 631-7770.
Lazy Arrow Outdoor Adventures, 9330 Camatta Creek Road, Santa Margarita, CA 93453. Contact: Mark Morrison. Telephone: (805) 238-7324.
Miller Brothers Expeditions, 70502 Vineyard Canyon Road, San Miguel, CA 93451. Contact: Roger or Harry Miller. Telephone: (805) 463-2475.
Miller Ranch Outfitters, P.O. Box 31, Laytonville, CA 95454. Contact: Richard Eriksen. Telephone: (707) 984-6092.
Mountain Bound, 5115 Todd Rd., Sebastapol, CA 95472. Contact: Mike Patt. Telephone: (707) 829-1117.
MP Guide Service, P.O. Box 73, Catheys Valley, CA 95306. Contact: Shari & Paul Morrison. Telephone: (209) 374-3404.
Multiple Use Managers, P.O. 669, Los Molinos, CA 96055. Contact: Gordon Long. Telephone: (800) 557-7087 or (530) 527-3588.
Murray Outfitters, P.O. Box 858, Pismo Beach, CA 93448. Contact: William Murray. Telephone: (805) 546-2801.
Mustang Guide Service, P.O. Box 2144, King City, CA 93930. Contact: Frank Morasci. Telephone: (831) 385-5628.
Panoche Valley Game Ranch, 7197 W. Carmellia, Dos Palos, CA 93620. Contact: Don Hennagan. Telephone: (209) 613-4630.
Pigs Galore, 90681 Turkey Flat Road, San Miguel, CA 93451-9773. Contact: Niles Van Boxtel. Telephone: (805) 463-2504.
Redfern Ranch, 4165 Canada Rd., Gilroy, CA 95020. Contact: Mark Klassen. Telephone: (831) 634-1866 or (408) 842-4602.
Redwood Empire Outdoor Adventures, P.O. Box 757, Miranda, CA 95553. Contact: Ken Bowman. Telephone: (707) 943-3083.
Rock Springs Ranch, 11000 Old Hernandez Road, Paicines, CA 95043. Contact: Ken or Nola Range. Telephone: (800) 209-5175 or (831) 385-5242.
Rocky Ridge Hunting Club, P.O. Box 8552, Red Bluff, CA 96080. Contact: Tom & Crystal Burrill. Telephone: (530) 200-1925 or (530) 200-1926.
S.Q. Guide Service, 5 Bitterwater Road, King City, CA 93930. Contact: Rick Eskue. Telephone: (831) 385-0154.
San Juan Hunting Adventures, 3013 Sun Ray Court, Bakersfield, CA 93308. Contact: Ty Bryson. Telephone: (661) 399-1419. E-Mail address: tybryso@zeus.kern.org.
Santa Lucia Outfitters, 100 Old Stage Rd., Salinas, CA 93908. Contact: Al and Rhena Agostini. Telephone: (831) 444-7100.
Pete Scardina, 189A Cachagua Road, Carmel Valley, CA 93924. Telephone (408) 659-4433.
Nessen Schmidt, Oasis Route, Box 105, King City, CA 93930. Telephone: (831) 385-1335.
Solitude Guiding Service, 3557 Piner Road, Santa Rosa, CA 95401. Contact: Scott Galloway. Telephone: (707) 545-7049.
Stag Peak Hunts, 166 Paradise Road, Santa Barbara, CA 93105. Contact: Jim McKibbin. Telephone: (805) 967-5372.
T-Bone's Guide Service, 48460 Airline Highway, King City, CA 93930. Contact: Bryan Palmer or Gladys O'Connor. Telephone: (831) 385-5009.
Tejon Ranch Company, P.O. Box 1000, Lebec, CA 93243. Contact: Don Geivet. Telephone: (661) 663-4208.
Turk Station Lodge, P.O. Box 416, Coalinga, CA 93210. Contact: Ross Allen. Telephone: (559) 935-1902.
Twisselman Outfitters, 7685 Cattle Drive, Santa Margarita, CA 93453. Contact: Nolan or Stacey Twisselman. Telephone: (805) 475-2437.
West Coast Adventures, 1014 Hopper Ave., Santa Rosa, CA 95403. Contact: Scott Young. Telephone: (707) 579-3078.
Wild Kingdom Ranch, 2516 Horseshoe Drive, Santa Rosa, CA 95405. Contact: John Galeazzi. Telephone: (707) 528-1817.
Wild Pig Hunting, Inc., P.O. Box 260, Yorkville, CA 95494. Contact: Ken Whittaker. Telephone: (707) 894-3280. E-mail address: adwhit@juno.com.
"Wild Thang" Hunting Adventures, P.O. Box 452, Shandon, CA 93461. Contact: Mark Sawdey. Telephone: (805) 239-9494. E-Mail address: mark@wildthanghunting.com.
Williamson Brothers Wild Hog Hunts, 288 Echo Valley Road, Salinas, CA 93907. Contact: Phillip or Dwight Williamson. Telephone: (831) 663-4980 or (831) 663-3568.
Tom Willoughby Outfitter, P.O. Box 1467, King City, CA 93930. Telephone: (831) 385-3003.
Work's Wildlife Management, 77502 Hog Canyon Road, San Miguel, CA 93451. Contact: Bert Claassen. Telephone: (805) 467-3262


Regards, D. Nelson
02 February 2007, 09:31
Kyler Hamann
CA Hog Hunter generally keeps a pretty good handle on this stuff but either they haven't updated their website in a while or this was pulled off a long time ago. Several of these outfits are no longer in business.

Kyler


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02 February 2007, 19:16
Paul C
Kyler is correct. I looked over the names on the list and some are out of business and a couple of names are pretty shady dudes. Do your homework.

Paul C.
02 February 2007, 23:36
Leo L.
I've used Hog Wild, Mark Williams, and Wild Pig Hunting, Ken Whittaker, with good results.
04 February 2007, 05:26
Teat Hound
Hi Dago Red

My brother and I have spent much time recently looking for [good] public land around the Coalinga area to hunt hogs. Most of the spots listed by the California DFG are pretty much hog-wash (for lack of a better term). The hardest part is making sure that you don't stray onto private land, so make sure that you have good maps. Nevertheless, two weeks ago we spent a whole Wednesday driving around Coalinga trying to find signs of hogs. Out of the 4 public areas we checked, only one showed any promise that it might have had hogs through the area sometime in the last year. We saw 14 deer, 51 antelope, a raccoon, 2 bison (!), countless coyotes, a fox, but no hogs.

I don't know what you consider "reasonable" for a hog hunt, but Kyler (who posts on the board) has a pretty good deal, and my friends and I have taken several hogs with him.

I’ve seen tons and tons of hogs on private ranches (heck, you can see them on the FT Tejon ranch while driving on I5 if you look closely in the afternoon), but still have yet to see any on the public lands that are available to us. Makes sense, as the animals are going to be where they have the best access to food, water and cover in conjunction with the least amount of pressure from hunters. The public areas we have seen only offer cover.

You might try some of the military bases though, which I have yet to explore.

Good luck


-eric

" . . . a gun is better worn and with bloom off---So is a saddle---People too by God." -EH
04 February 2007, 12:23
Dago Red
I might haev to go out there for coyotes! I would have a blast with that as well.

I checked out kyler's site, it actually isn't that bad if you get more than one guy and do the no lodging route. I asked a friend if he wanted to start saving and plan something (I don't know extra money just sitting around unfortunately) and he said to let him check first. apparently he has family that go pig hunting and he is going to see if they'll share the "where" with him.

Red


My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.
-Winston Churchill
05 February 2007, 01:51
Mike_Dettorre
Dago,

If you need somebody to go with you at Kyler drop me a line.

To out of staters CA hog hunting sounds pricey but I can go on 3 pigs hunts including gas lodging and everything for about $2000 a year with very high success rates.

That is less than $300 a month...trying owning any piece of hunting property in CA for anywhere near that


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
09 February 2007, 21:16
Dago Red
Hey Mike, thanks man. that sounds like a fun time. I will have to shoot you an e-mail and start saving, it's a big hunk for me to have at one time.

Red


My rule of life prescribed as an absolutely sacred rite smoking cigars and also the drinking of alcohol before, after and if need be during all meals and in the intervals between them.
-Winston Churchill
11 February 2007, 03:31
Richard Edwards
Mike,

I think you meant less than 200 a month.
11 February 2007, 04:40
Mike_Dettorre
Yeah Richard I did


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.