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Pig Slam?
14 May 2008, 23:01
CA Safari HunterPig Slam?
Is anyone else here going for the Wild Pigs of the World slam? I finally made copper and have a way to go. Anyone made it to the top yet?
N Am Feral boar
N Am Javelinas
Warthog
Nice pictures of some good hogs! The wart hog is a very good one, too bad his left cutter was broken off. The feral also is very good, and looks to be taken in Calafornia, from the background.
The grand slam idea is one that has intrigued me for a long time, as well. However there are a lot of wild hog species in the world, and some are in places where hunting is not a very good idea for Americans.
Speaking of wild hogs, though the two Javalina you have are very good ones, and from the looks of the background, may be in south Texas, New Mexico, or southern Arizona. My guess is Texas! However for the grand salm, the javalina do not count, because Javalina are not pigs/hogs, but are a species all their own, Collored Peccary,( can't remember the scientific name) a musk emitting species.
With no formal grand slam for hogs being set, then I suppose the Javalina will count, simply because most people call them pigs, and most believe, wrongly, that they are pigs!
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16 May 2008, 00:41
CA Safari HunterMacD37 you are good! The Hog is from Northern CA. One of his tusk is broken too. I’m always looking for the ugliest and oldest pig. The Javelinas are from South Texas (Jody Star Outfitters) and the warthog was from South Africa.
SCI has the Wild Pigs and Peccaries of the World “slamâ€. It’s probably the only one I will be able to afford to complete in my lifetime. It includes:
Warthog
Giant Forest Hog
Bushpig
Barbary Wild Boar
Eurasian Wild Boar (Europe)
Eurasian Wild Boar (Asia)
Feral Boar (N Am)
Feral Boar (S Am)
Feral Boar (South Pacific)
Javelina (N Am)
Javelina (S AM)
White-lipped Peccary (N Am)
White-lipped Peccary (S Am)
# required
Copper 3
Bronze 4
Silver 5
Gold 6
Diamond 7
CA, I found your post very interesting, largely because I know so little about hog hunting outside of Africa.
A question: is there a difference between the three types of feral hog, or is it just the location to make the hunting experience varied for the purpose of the award?
Incidentally, there is a relatively small population of feral pigs (like that for many human generations) in an area of South Africa just north of Cape Town. They get huge, I hear.
18 May 2008, 22:33
Harold R. StephensI guess I have only two species, Feral Boar (N Am) and Javelina (N Am) so does that qualify as lead? I'm striving for Copper
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20 May 2008, 02:09
CA Safari HunterKaroo – It’s mainly location. Some have more of “Russian†look than others, but even that can vary from ranch to ranch in the same area.
My feeling is a feral boar is a feral boar. A light colored one with pink spots is just as hard to hunt as a “Russian†looking hog (and they pretty much taste the same).
20 May 2008, 04:17
WhitworthI guess I'm lead as well having taken feral hogs and a European boar...... But, I am striving for more!
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20 May 2008, 06:49
CA Safari HunterI just did a little researching and according to Wikipedia “Eurasian Wild Boar†and “Feral Boars†are the same thing.
So I guess a Wild Boar, Eurasian Wild Boar, Russian Boar, Razorback and Feral Pig are all the same. And they probably are when you break down their DNA. So it looks like you have to shoot 5 of the same type of hogs, just in different locations throughout the world.
Karoo – Hopefully my next will be a bushpig. We hunted for them for 5 days and never saw one. My brother shot a nice porcupine while looking for them, but those things are not easy to hunt.
20 May 2008, 07:13
WhitworthThe hog I shot in Europe wasn't mixed like the ferals we have in the US. Wikepedia is known for its innaccuracy in many cases. A feral hog can be a hampshire that is loose in the woods for a while, and not necessarily what you would call European stock.......
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20 May 2008, 08:42
CA Safari HunterThat’s what I was hoping for. I can’t find any pics on the internet but I remember seeing some different looking ones in some magazines. Do you have a photo?
20 May 2008, 08:54
WhitworthOf a European hog? I'll post a picture of a typical Florida feral, and a European hog. I apologize in advance for posting these photos yet again!

Florida hog........
European hog.........
And here is a Euro hog that has yet to be shot......

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20 May 2008, 09:03
CA Safari HunterThat last hog is definitely different then the wild boars we have here in California. It looks like they have the same coat as a dog. Very different. Looks like I'll have to talk to the wife about going after one of those.
Thanks for posting.
20 May 2008, 17:27
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by CA Safari Hunter:
That last hog is definitely different then the wild boars we have here in California. It looks like they have the same coat as a dog. Very different. Looks like I'll have to talk to the wife about going after one of those.
Thanks for posting.
LOL!! Any excuse, huh?! I wish you luck in convincing the wife!

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27 August 2008, 04:21
HipshootCan anyone give any more info on the WHITE LIPPED PICCARY? What is the difference from the COLLARED PICCARY and where can they be hunted?
Thanx
Hipshoot
27 August 2008, 05:50
CA Safari HunterThey have a huge white patch on their bottom jaw. The only Outfitters I found that offer White-lipped Peccary hunts are in South America. SCI list them being in North America but I haven’t found any guides that offer them.
28 August 2008, 04:16
HipshootThanks CA, I see the white jaw and lack of white collar, also the hair seems a lot longer!
Hipshoot
28 August 2008, 06:41
Double AAOkay, It's quiz time. What kind of pig is this and where is it from?
Just to keep thing in perspective, that's a 275# lumberjack in the background.

28 August 2008, 06:52
CA Safari HunterMy guess is it’s a big black pig shot in the snow?
28 August 2008, 07:27
CA Safari HunterEurasian cross hunted in Saskatchewan?
28 August 2008, 09:09
ScopeBiteI am going for Copper by the end of the year.
Do you have tropies for your (3)?
Shawn
I would rather Boar Hunt for my Bacon!
28 August 2008, 17:25
Whitworthquote:
Originally posted by Double AA:
Okay, It's quiz time. What kind of pig is this and where is it from?
Just to keep thing in perspective, that's a 275# lumberjack in the background.
Wow, that is a big hog and the cutters are huge!! I sure hope that he became a shoulder mount.
I'm guessing Michigan if it is here in the states......
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28 August 2008, 22:10
CA Safari Hunterquote:
Originally posted by ScopeBite:
Do you have tropies for your (3)?
Shawn
Just the mounts. It’s too much trouble getting them measured and entered into the books. It’s a lot easier with the Inter-Circles and "Slams".
29 August 2008, 03:26
scr83jpquote:
Originally posted by Double AA:
Okay, It's quiz time. What kind of pig is this and where is it from?
Just to keep thing in perspective, that's a 275# lumberjack in the background.
Family: Suidae, Genus: Sus ,Species: Scrofa
29 August 2008, 04:01
HipshootI would say a BUCK TOOTHED AMERICAN CITIZEN from the south BRONX, New York !
OR
Barack Obama's first wife !
Vote for him boys and your hunting days are over !!!!
Hipshoot
29 August 2008, 06:44
pinotguyquote:
Warthog
Giant Forest Hog
Bushpig
Barbary Wild Boar
Eurasian Wild Boar (Europe)
Eurasian Wild Boar (Asia)
Feral Boar (N Am)
Feral Boar (S Am)
Feral Boar (South Pacific)
Javelina (N Am)
Javelina (S AM)
White-lipped Peccary (N Am)
White-lipped Peccary (S Am)
# required
Copper 3
Bronze 4
Silver 5
Gold 6
Diamond 7
Just for clarification, is the Red River Hog considered to be the same as the Bushpig, or is there a difference and its omission on this list is an over-sight?
29 August 2008, 06:50
WhitworthMy guess is oversight, a they are not one in the same.........
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29 August 2008, 07:14
CA Safari HunterThey are separate animals according to SCI and Rowland Ward. From what I have read it mainly has to do with their redder coat. Also I read that Red River Hogs are only near the Western part Africa (near the equator). The Bushpig is found from East Africa and down to Southern Africa.
So I’m guessing that they are pretty much the same but the ones found in the West are called Red River Hogs (and have a redder coat) and Eastern/Southern ones are called Bushpigs.
But I’m just a guy from California and I have been wrong before.

Red River hog.
29 August 2008, 07:34
WhitworthThey are very cool looking!! Thanks for posting the picture! Bushpigs look nothing like red river hogs.......
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29 August 2008, 10:52
ScopeBiteI am just a dude from CA too and I say that hog is the most interesting thing I have seen in a while. I guess I get so used to the CA feral that I forget there are many other cousins out there. Thanks for the education. I will see if I can post my boar from Hawaii it looks so different than all others also.
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01 September 2008, 19:39
juanpozziHere in Argentina ,we have many different species like feral hog,coastal hog ,russian boars ,lipped peccary,collared peccary,Chaco peccary ,etc .I hunted most of them and im planning to hunt warthog and bushpig next year ,then ill hunt again in USA ,for me is important too to hunt them with every weapon possible ,pistol,rifle,shotgun,knives,spears and bow.I hunted them with dogs ,in water holes with moonligth,from horseback etc .Juan
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02 September 2008, 00:43
CrazyhorseconsultingWhat is considered today as the feral hog is nothing more than domestic pigs that have reverted at various levels back to the wild form.
All domestic hogs, with the exception of the Vietnamese Pot Beelies, were developed from the European/Eur-Asian Wild Pig - Sus Scrofa.
Pigs are like cats in thjat while they have been domecticated to a point, they are not so domesticated as say dogs have, that they can not and or will not revert back to the original form in just a few generations.
There were no hogs in the Americas until after the Spanish brought them over.
Evidently, the collared peccary/javelina has only been a recent addition to the South western US, as if memory serves, no evidence of their remains have been found in Native American SW sites prior to the 1500's or so.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
02 September 2008, 02:13
packrattusnongratusIs the SE Asian Pot Beelie a special and rare breed?

Packy
02 September 2008, 03:48
woodmanDanThis is the poor man's leopard hunt!
South Africa Sept 07,took him after 4 nights in a blind.Used a red spot light on a car battery with a reastat to slowly bring in enough light to shoot.Had a herd of Cape Buffalo go around our blind about an hour before!Shot at about 40 yds 375hh About 11pm.
He's an ok pig,saw one first night with bigger tusks,but would not move for a shot behind some females.
dan
02 September 2008, 04:11
WhitworthDan, those bush pigs are wicked looking!! Nice trophy, congratulations!!

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02 September 2008, 04:41
Crazyhorseconsultingquote:
Is the SE Asian Pot Beelie a special and rare breed? Packy
Not so much special or rare, but different.
From my research, animals, such as the Pot Bellied Pig and Zebu/Brahma cattle, are od a different sub-species of the nominate races of domestic stock.
The Aurochs or Bos taurus was the animal all domestic breeds of cattle originated from, except the zebu/Brahma group and supposedly they originated from Bos indicus.
With the Vietnamese Pot Bellies, they came from a sub-species of Sus scrofa.
Even the rocks don't last forever.
02 September 2008, 04:51
woodmanDanThanks;
The PH,Brian,was kind of a bushpig fanatic.Couldn't afford a trailcam so he used small alarm clocks with a trip wire tied around the AA battery.
When he suggested we hunt these,he said we would be in for long days...
So up at 5am hunt other game till 11am,rest till 2pm,hunt till 5:30(dark),dinner,out at 6pm till 11pm.....5 days....
Worth every minute...
Those photos are around Midnight,had to pack,and leave for Joh'burg for Namibia at 3 am,
into camp at 11pm the next night...40 hours.
Heres the warthog,same place,an old warrior!
I should add this warty is the only animal out of 42 that took 2 shots in 22 days of hunting!!
dan
02 September 2008, 05:19
WhitworthThat's some serious ivory on that warthog!! Another great trophy, Dan! Thanks for sharing!
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07 September 2008, 16:50
Mad DogPart of my pig slam. still need a reasonable facsimali of a pure russian, and a BUSHPIG!

Mad Dog
07 September 2008, 18:02
Lorenzoquote:
Originally posted by woodmanDan:
This is the poor man's leopard hunt!
South Africa Sept 07,took him after 4 nights in a blind.Used a red spot light on a car battery with a reastat to slowly bring in enough light to shoot
dan
I agree with you about hunting pigs at night is the poor man's leopard hunt !!! as hunting blue wildebeast is the poor man's buffalo hunt !!!
I have been thinking in doing the same thing with a reastat !!! so it works ??
L
07 September 2008, 23:33
hnts4funMad Dog,
Those are some nice trophys. Good luck on the rest of your quest!
Matt