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09 April 2018, 13:26
Ukko
scope for heavy recoil gun
Im looking scope for my 600 overkill rifle. It has built on CZ action and scope need install on gun own rail. Requirement are enough long eye relief, scope can handle recoil and scope are hopely variable and max power around 6-9. In gun has now 9000 Aimpoint and i want now some real scope of it. So what you recommend?


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09 April 2018, 17:52
sambarman338
Atkinson will probably tell you there is only one scope that will last any time on a rifle of that calibre, a Leupold 2.5x compact. Your need for high magnification is probably a problem as Ray seems to think even the 3x Leupold is less robust.

Nightforce, however, claim some of their scopes have withstood from 4000 to 12,000 shots on various massive tactical rifles from the 50 BMG to the 20mm Vulcan without giving up.

Personally, I wouldn't trust anything with constantly centred reticles (almost everything now) simply because of the massive inertia forces working against the large, articulated erector tube needed to achieve that centering. Old German and Austrian scopes made until about 40 years ago had only a reticle in a small ring to worry about and some fixed-power American scopes like the Bausch & Lomb had no moving parts inside. To what extent any of these scopes could stand the recoil you anticipate, I can't say, but on paper they should be better. However, more modern scopes like the Nightforce often have graticules etched on glass, supposedly less likely to break than old wire reticles.

One thing that did affect the old variables was the tendency for the eye relief to shorten drastically as the power was turned up, something to beware of in heavy-recoil situations. While some modern scopes still suffer this problem, a Kahles 1.1-4x I know of has conquered it but at the expense of eye-box flexibility. For this reason I think you should stick with a fixed-power model, if you must use a scope.

Have you thought about a stout, top-mounted ghost-ring peep, if the rifle is to be used for dangerous game?
09 April 2018, 20:57
GeorgeS
Forget Atkinson, and contact Robgunbuilder via private message here.

He created the .600 Overkill and knws more about shooting it than anyone.

George


09 April 2018, 21:42
Luckyducker
The most robust rifle scope I know of is a Sightron. I have seen and heard of them on heavy kickers that wouldn't shake loose under any amount of recoil abuse.


Dennis
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10 April 2018, 08:06
sambarman338
quote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Forget Atkinson, and contact Robgunbuilder via private message here.

He created the .600 Overkill and knws more about shooting it than anyone.

George


... and be sure to tell the rest of us - I don't suppose Robgunbuilder wants 50,000 tyre kickers asking the same question.

PS: George, what does your second line of Greek (or Russian?) mean? I can't find a translation that works.
29 April 2018, 12:25
gryphon1
Its in a famous passage in the Apology in which Socrates explains why he will not abandon φιλοσοφία.

(philosophy)



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29 April 2018, 18:20
sambarman338
Bloody hell, Gryphon, you're like some mystical butler who knows the answer to everything Smiler

I don't suppose you're in contact with Robgunbuilder?

There are bigger kicks in his world, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
29 April 2018, 22:16
gryphon1
Robgunbuilder?

No,dont know of him even cob.

Have a fun read here of this oldie.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.n...dex.php/t-23967.html



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30 April 2018, 08:05
sambarman338
I'm surprised that clip has only had 2500 viewings.

I feel a bit sorry for the guy who only had the toe of the stock against his shoulder.