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16 March 2010, 22:43
Slider
Used Big Bore Scopes?
I am in the market to purchase two used Scopes. These scopes and rifle's' will go on a Safari. I like Leupold. One is for a 375 H&H mag Bolt rifle. The other 458 Win Mag bolt rifle. I am thinking a 2x7 or 2.5-8 for the 375 and either a 2x or a 2.5x for the 458? Will this scope take the recoil of the 458? Leupold M8 2x EER Pistol Scope if not which models? Also what objectives on each scope? I should also ask what height mounts for an FN(remington 798)Thanx in advance
16 March 2010, 23:31
elk88101
I have a scope I took off my Dakota 416 Rigby
Burris 1.5x6 Signature Luminated
Like new was $700 want $380.
Includes shipping
Larry
elk88101@hotmail.com
17 March 2010, 07:06
Stonecreek
I believe the Leupold 2-7 is a good choice for a .375 -- that's what I have on mine. Nothing wrong with the 2.5-8X, but I don't believe the price difference is justified by any real performance difference. Anecdotally, the older design of the II-series of scopes also seems to be slightly more resistant to recoil than that of the newer III-series.

The 2x Leupold pistol scope won't be at all satisfactory. It is made with eye relief in excess of a foot long, and a commensurately tiny field of view. It is designed to be held at arm's length, not four inches from the eye. The otherwise "perfect" scope for a .458 is no longer made. That was the full-sized Leupold M-8 3X. Its eye relief was forgiving and its field of view was elephant-wide. A good substitute might be a Leupold VX-II in 1-4X. Other satisfactory choices might be a VX-III in 1.25-5X, or 1.75-6X. Of course, the FOV of the II-series 2-7X is fully adequate for the largest and closest game when set to minimum magnification.

If you don't insist on the very most modern or brightest optics for your .458 (come to think of it, you ain't gonna be shooting 500 yard prarie dogs with this rifle, so top-notch optics aren't required) you might look for a good old used El Paso Weaver in a K-2.5X or K-3X. These steel tubed scopes were hell-for-stout, had bulletproof adjusments, and are virtually recoil proof. Their sealing was a little weak, so they might occassionally fog up when hunting the cold/wet Alaska pennisula, but won't give you any trouble in temperate or warm climates.
17 March 2010, 08:34
0X0
I put a used Leupold 4x fixed, I think 32mm on a Ruger No. 1, .458 WM. My thinking, and most agree, is that a fixed power scope has no floating glass and is less subject to shock/recoil.

Leupold will fix any of their scopes, unconditionally. No registration, no "warranty" card. If you dig it up out of the dirt, while you're plowing the pasture, Leupold will fix it or replace it, free.

That's all I need to know on a large bore scope.

Look at Saeed's guns . . . The guy can afford anything, and he's got Leupold on 98% of his guns. (I imagine the others are stuff he's "inherited.")
17 March 2010, 20:49
Stonecreek
Slider,

I missed your request on ring height. Use the lowest avaialble with anything with a 33mm or smaller objective.

I'm guessing you have taken advantage of the CDNN sale on these Remington-branded Zastavas. CDNN has the Weaver-type bases available for them, so if you use those I suggest using the Burris Z-ring. It is a neat, strong, all-steel ring that I use and like on several of my guns. In my experience the Zastavas are pretty decent guns but can stand a little honing and smoothing.
17 March 2010, 20:54
Slider
Will the Burris Z-rings stand up to the recoil?
17 March 2010, 21:01
Mikelravy
I have a Leupold VX1 2-7 on a 375. It has proven satisfactory in every way. After 500 rounds poi hasn't changed.
18 March 2010, 20:40
Stonecreek
quote:
Originally posted by Slider:
Will the Burris Z-rings stand up to the recoil?


I can't say that I've put any Z-rings to any really tough tests, but they are all-steel and the Weaver cross-lock design is one of the sturdiest on the market (same as the paramilitary Pictinny rail). I would rate the Z-ring among the sturdiest of mounts. But quite frankly, the only mounts I've ever seen fail of any type are mounts which are not properly installed.
22 March 2010, 19:15
Grumulkin
quote:
Originally posted by Mikelravy:
I have a Leupold VX1 2-7 on a 375. It has proven satisfactory in every way. After 500 rounds poi hasn't changed.


I've had one of these on a 458 Lott with no problem. I use a VX-II 3-9X on a 375 H&H Magnum which has been trouble free as well.