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What can I do from TZ?
04 April 2010, 20:11
jangiliWhat can I do from TZ?
I've been trying to obtain some riflescopes via internet to send to TZ. I've been told: NO GO, because of government regulations. I was hoping to order on the net and have shipped to me direct.
Any ideas on this?
Is this for real?
11 April 2010, 23:25
Michael RobinsonThe applicable US laws, which are the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, only regulate riflescopes manufactured to military specifications.
So most, if not all, hunting riflescopes should be exempt.
Unfortunately, many US companies, from an excess of caution, are simply refusing to ship any riflescopes overseas.
Mike
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12 April 2010, 04:14
GatogordoYou can probably order out of Europe.
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12 April 2010, 13:06
jangiliThanks guys for the advice. I figured it was as you have said, having been refused first Trijicon, then Leupold as well. I'm having a Leupold hand carried from RSA, but it costs double of the US price, ex-Cabelas.
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Originally posted by mrlexma:
The applicable US laws, which are the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulations, only regulate riflescopes manufactured to military specifications.
So most, if not all, hunting riflescopes should be exempt.
Unfortunately, many US companies, from an excess of caution, are simply refusing to ship any riflescopes overseas.
12 April 2010, 18:54
scubaproas long as it is not a miltary reticle I don“t know that it should not be possible from here (Germany), but I only have Swarovskis...

13 April 2010, 19:42
RiaanYou need to talk to Alex Roy from Eurooptic.com. I'm a raving fan of his!
I've brought scopes from him that other well-known vendors here refused to sell to me - citing some legal issues. Well, Alex applies for export permits - free of charge, selling the same scope legally, for very good prices.
Contact Alex and be done with frustrations buying optics online from Africa.
From the US, export of unmounted scopes is regulated by the US Dept of Commerce. Leupold was kind enough to apply for an export license for me of late. I have a feeling it is not a big deal, assuming you know what forms to fill in and where to send them...
I EuroOptic provides this service, that would be a good option.
- mike
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16 April 2010, 19:18
Michael RobinsonA Department of Commerce export license under EAR regulations is required for any rifle scope, regardless of whether such scope is also regulated by AECA and ITAR and the Department of State.
The process is a bit of a maze, but even rats can learn to run through a maze - for the proper reward, that is.
Many companies have decided that it's not worth it for them to do so. Some are still willing, but the list is getting shorter every day, it seems.
Several companies (including Ruger, Bushnell and T/C) have had to pay large civil, and in some cases even criminal, fines as a result of violating applicable laws regarding these exports.
There are other reasons, besides federal regulations, that combine to make exporting rifle scopes from the USA fairly onerous.
Here is an informative discussion of the subject, for those interested:
SWFA's Export Policy
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
17 April 2010, 16:52
jangiliThanks again guys for your good advice. Exporting out of Europe or RSA seems to be safest bet for the future....
28 April 2010, 17:45
LabmanYou need to find a hunter from the US who is coming to TZ and could bring a "backup" scope with him.
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