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14 July 2005, 20:44
Wendell ReichPlay with your guns!
Preparing for Tanzania, I took my guns out of the safe to .... well, play with them.
Good thing I took my trusty Model 700 push feed 375 H&H. (Don't worry, it is a backup for my .450)
The stock breaking monster apparently snuk in to the safe and did a number on the stock. A gaping crack from the triggerguard across the pistol grip.
This stock is done.
My question, This is a Model 700 Safari. I need a new stock. Can't seem to find one on the internet that is specifically for a 700 Safari grade (Right hand, heavy contour barel, hinged floorplate.) I will gladly take a synthetic stock, but not sure what to order.
Any suggestions?
Wendell, Dave Wolf in Waco is able to do great repairs on cracked stocks. I've seen a couple that he knitted back together, fine work and he says they're as strong as original. If you want to give him a call, he's at 254-848-4199. His turn around time for me was great. Bob
14 July 2005, 21:49
AtkinsonGlass it, pin it, and worry about a new stock when you get home...If you can't do it send it to me and I'll fix it and get it back to you, you pay postage...After the hunt you can toss it or whatever and get a new one.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
14 July 2005, 21:52
DPhillipsI'd give McMillan a call and talk to someone there.
http://www.mcmfamily.com/mcmillan/contactus/14 July 2005, 21:53
AtkinsonOh yeah I forgot and a six pack instead of scotch...he needs to cowboy up...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
14 July 2005, 22:52
Wendell ReichI did the stress test on the stock and it is now in two pieces.
It is now firewood.
Thanks for the offer to fix it Ray, but this was a bad break, not just a small fracture.
Would a normal BDL Long action stock work? Of course this would be, after I open up the barel chanel a bit to accommodate the larger barel.
15 July 2005, 00:21
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
I did the stress test on the stock and it is now in two pieces.
It is now firewood.
Thanks for the offer to fix it Ray, but this was a bad break, not just a small fracture.
Would a normal BDL Long action stock work? Of course this would be, after I open up the barel chanel a bit to accommodate the larger barel.
Wendell, does your rifle have iron sights, or only a scope? If you use Irons, then you need to mke sure the stock will allow you to use the irons. If it will, then any Remington long action stock will work with a little barrel channel work. Too bad because I had a 700 BDL, long action, take off, left over from a synthetic change over, but just recently gave it away! You might give Brown Precision a call, and ask about a blank you could cobble up for the season. Phone (530)384-2506 Web-site
http://www.brownprecision.com They make a fine synthetic, and they are easy to fit, and paint!
Sounds like now would be a good chance to rid yourself of that old Remington, and get a rifle!

Good luck
....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982
Hands of Old Elmer Keith
15 July 2005, 00:52
Wendell Reichquote:
Sounds like now would be a good chance to rid yourself of that old Remington, and get a rifle!
Naw, she's just gettin good n broke in now!
The 450 Dakota is the Buffalo gun. The Remington was the plainsgame/Buff backup gun. I plan on using the scoped Remington if there was a good Buff just beyond my iron sight range.
I will look at brown precision. Thanks.
15 July 2005, 02:26
30ott6Wendell- Is this the pig killing gun? If so, I am very sorry! Please get it fixed for me!!
John
15 July 2005, 02:32
Wendell ReichThat's right! You broke it!!! Now I remember who broke my gun! All along I thought it was me.
Yes, it was the Hogzilla rifle, next time you try to break my gun it is going to be a lot harder to do it! I ordered an H-S Precision, a Remington replacement, and a Ram Line stock. I am going to see which one I like the best and return the others.
John, I doubt you had anything to do with it. It wasn't that way last time I looked at it. I think all the trips to the ranch and back and all the abuse I put that gun through is finally showing.
Hard to believe I have ever used that gun huh?

Mac, Brown Precision was to expensive to put on a lowly push feed DG rifle. Kind of like putting a doorbell on an outhouse! However, I may take that option for a custom 7 mag. Thanks for the suggestion.
15 July 2005, 04:03
McCrayMost of my Remingtons, including a 375 H&H Classic, wear HS Precision. They fit the normal magnum barrel profile great, if yours has the heavy (gas pipe) profile you'll need to hog out the channel.
How did the Caprivi buff hunts go?
"There always seems to be a big market for making the clear, complex."
15 July 2005, 05:21
Michael RobinsonWendell,
A lot of people, including me

, don't like Remingtons for a lot of reasons--but this is the first case of spontaneous Remington-self-destruction on record.
Did it spontaneously short-stroke itself, jam, self-shear off its bolt handle, and spit out its flimsy riveted extractor, too?

Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
quote:
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Your rifle is telling you "I am not worthy"! This is a perfect time to switch to a real rifle.

square shooter
15 July 2005, 05:55
xgruntmrlexma
This new guy saw Wendells post about spontaneous stock destruction on a Remington rifle this morning. I knew someone would remind Wendell of their disdain for this particular gun. I am shocked it took so long. I guess Wendell being way up there in the AR hierarchy bought him some time.
15 July 2005, 05:59
Wendell ReichI am surprised it took this long.
MR, now,
that is funny!
15 July 2005, 06:04
Charles_HelmI'd be happy to loan you a real CRF rifle for such an important trip. Of course the largest bore I have is a 9.3x62. Five down, nice slick action.
15 July 2005, 06:31
Magnum Hunter1Wendell,
I have a take-off 700 Classic stock that has never been used that I might be willing to part with if you need it. I have it laid back for a project that has not happened. Email me if you want to talk. <rmerrill@nrahq.org>
Doug
15 July 2005, 06:50
Art S.For what it's worth, I've fixed a couple of stocks on reasonably heavy rifles that were completely broken at the wrist. As long as the pieces fit reasonably well, you can epoxy them back together, using rubber bands, string, whatever, to hold it in place. Then take a long (long!) 1/4" bit and drill from the inside through the pistol grip. Next enlarge the hole to 1/2". Electrician's bits work well for this. You then get a good hardwood dowel (walnut works well if you can find it), lather it up with thickened epoxy (boatbuilder's works better than bedding; thicken with silica) and drive it into the hole with a hammer. The dowel is straight grained, hard and takes the force in compression, acting like a crossbolt(they actually work in tension). It will take an enourmous load.
I have done this on new stocks with highly figured wood that I didn't trust in the grip area. It's probably better than the old extended tangs the English liked. Depending on the fit of the break or crack, you can hardly see it after refinishing.
15 July 2005, 07:04
PaladinWell at least your Remington was considerate enough to break in your safe instead of in the bush!

It would have been entertaining had it happened while you were dealing with something large, cloven hooved and pissed.
Rick R
Of all the things I've lost in life, I miss my mind the most.
15 July 2005, 17:41
Wendell ReichThanks for the offers from everyone, I guess I neglected to say, I am leaving in August, so I have plenty of time. The new stocks arrive on Monday. I bought one of every kind I could think of. I will pick the best and return the rest.
A broken stock just gives me an excuse to jazz up my push feed!
I appreciate everyones concern that I may be going into a dangerous situation with an inadequate rifle. Rest assured, a double square bridge, mauser actioned, .450 caliber rifle will be along to save the day when my lowly PF short strokes itself to death in the hot African sun.

15 July 2005, 18:00
Rich ElliottAw shoot, Wendell,
Put a new stock on that wonderful, old Remington 700 .375 H&H and you'll be leaving that fancy Dakota in camp. Shoot, I've got one old .30-06 Model 700 that I bought in 1972 that's on it's third stock.

Rich Elliott
Rich Elliott
Ethiopian Rift Valley Safaris
15 July 2005, 19:03
CRUSHERThe nice folks at MPI stocks will custom fit and bed a fiberglass replacement with magnum pins for reasonable price I use them and like them they make the glass stocks for a square MPISTOCKS.com
VERITAS ODIUM PARIT
Rich, I am a gun snob too, the kind that doesn't like M70s.
Never shot a more accurate factory rifle than a Remington.
I'll take a M700 over a m70 that doesn't feed worth a shit.
15 July 2005, 22:25
Wendell ReichOh no,
here we go again!

I must admit, my 450 Dakota is the cheap mans version. (A CZ 550 bored out to 450 Dakota).
Still. the animal does not know any difference when that 500 grain slug hammers into them.
15 July 2005, 22:33
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
Yes, it was the Hogzilla rifle, next time you try to break my gun it is going to be a lot harder to do it! I ordered an H-S Precision, a Remington replacement, and a Ram Line stock. I am going to see which one I like the best and return the others.
Mac, Brown Precision was to expensive to put on a lowly push feed DG rifle. Kind of like putting a doorbell on an outhouse! However, I may take that option for a custom 7 mag. Thanks for the suggestion.
Wendell, I have a 375 H&H in a so-called "TUPPERWARE" Ram-Line stock, that I installed a Pachmayr (SPL) Decellarator recoil pad. It is a Whitworth, but the deal is it has worked for almost 20 yrs without a problem, or change of zero. It is too straight, however, to use Iron sights with it. For a scoped rifle it is good, and cheap as well! Worth looking at for sure!

....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982
Hands of Old Elmer Keith
16 July 2005, 01:31
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
The stock breaking monster apparently snuk in to the safe and did a number on the stock. A gaping crack from the triggerguard across the pistol grip.
This stock is done.
My question, This is a Model 700 Safari. I need a new stock. Can't seem to find one on the internet that is specifically for a 700 Safari grade (Right hand, heavy contour barel, hinged floorplate.) I will gladly take a synthetic stock, but not sure what to order.
Any suggestions?
This is a message from
GOD that you need to switch to a CRF rifle immediately.

16 July 2005, 01:45
Charles_Helmquote:
Preparing for Tanzania, I took my guns out of the safe to .... well, play with them.
I finally realized that there was somthing bothering me about the title to this thread, something from
Full Metal Jacket...
18 July 2005, 17:32
Wendell Reich
20 July 2005, 06:47
500grainsSo Wendell, did you get rid of that Rem yet?

20 July 2005, 06:50
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
So Wendell, did you get rid of that Rem yet?
I made him a real attractive trade offer on his new double for a CRF rifle...