Re: Monolithic bullets in light calibers

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13 December 2004, 14:11

cewe

Re: Monolithic bullets in light calibers

Andy,

Iï¿½ll remember that when I order up the bullets for next season, thanks.

Erik D et al,

We have to put up with a lot of weird shit here in Europe. An example: We have plenty of brown bears in Finland, some have even been running around in Helsinki and some suburbs BUT since the Belgians and the French donï¿½t have bears they keep our quota at a minimum!

My idea was to send them a dozen each and let them loose in different parks in Amsterdam, Paris, Rome -downtown parks

- that way weï¿½d all have bears and they could stay of our case. Same goes for wolves and lynx.

The lead shot thing is important if your shooting in shallow ponds but not if you have 60 meters of ocean under your boat.

No logic at all.

And Erik: Save your nice guns and buy a cheap mag for shooting steel shot.

13 December 2004, 06:54

ErikD

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I just read a piece on loading the 6.5x55 with monolithic bullets (I think they were Barnes Xï¿½s), the point being that the bullet is too long and wonï¿½t stabilize with todays rifling (hope I got that right). There is some talk of outlawing bullets containing lead (EU bullshit...) which then would make monos the only option.

Has anybody tried Rhinos or the like in light calibers? Is this only a problem in the 6.5?

Cewe,

Banning the use of lead in bullets and shot is indeed a silly EU thing... Here in Norway (even though we aren't a member of the EU) we will from the first of January not be allowed to use lead in our shotguns, which is of course political nonesence, and not based on scientific knowledge since lead is not a problem in the mountains and forests here. Wetlands are another matter of course. Scientific fact was ignored by those in power... Thus it is either the choice of using steel shot, or Vismuth/Bismuth, and "Heavyshot". Vismuth cartridges unfortunatly costs a fortune...

However, we can only hope that it won't go so far concerning rifle bullets, although there is some talk about it.

But I noticed that you mentioned Rhino bullets. Bare in mind that these are not monomental bullets, but contain lead in the front, as the contruction is practically the same as Trophy Bonded Bear Claws.

Erik

13 December 2004, 07:19

ErikD

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Steel is better but you need a bigger shotsize and a magnum load.

But then many shotguns are not up to using steel. Especially some nice older ones...

And then you have the fact that steel shot is not very favorable for the forestry industry, while lead (and bismuth) shot in comparison just get sliced like butter, creating no damage to the equipment used. Plus, the use of steel shot in our rocky mountains is actually a hazard to the sight of both hunters and bird dogs due to ricochets. Most ptarmigan hunting is done in such terrain. I've understood that heavy-shot doesn't ricochet like steel, but I'm not sure how an older shotgun would handle it?

Erik