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Kudu horns ... there should be a law!

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07 March 2006, 22:58
stagman
Kudu horns ... there should be a law!
My kudu horns are now black ...

What were once beautiful, shiny and walnut-colored came out of the crate solid black, dull and cracked all to hell.

I don't know what the freak they do with our horns in SA, but there really should be a law.

Sorry, had to vent ... it is my finest trophy and the horns look like they have been hosed down with some kind of bug killer and baked for a year ... makes me sick.


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08 March 2006, 00:38
Huntertaxi
Take a rag and wipe the horns. If there is a black residue on it then it’s only oxide that’s on the horns.
If that fails take some solvent but start at the tip of your horns.
Let me know.
Cheers


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08 March 2006, 01:23
Masterifleman
That's the way my Kudu horns came, also from RSA. I thought that perhaps the taxidermist does something with them to make them look like they were on a live Kudu.


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08 March 2006, 01:36
stagman
I've washed them 3 times with Dawn and scrubbed them with a steel brush, which did lighten them just a slight bit, but were still DARK.

When that didn't work, I used a solvent and was disappointed to see that it didn't work either.

Whatever they did to them appears to be unfixable.


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08 March 2006, 02:24
Jerry Huffaker
What happens to the horns is, they boil them too long and they keep adding to the same water and it ends up soaking the horns in fat(oil)and it turns them black. There's nothing you can do about it.


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08 March 2006, 04:53
Rusty
Stag,
Same thing happened to mine. I feel for ya buddy! A senseless loss!


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08 March 2006, 09:35
mfast
Stag,

More of the same. One of the responses I recieved as a solution was to put some grease or oil back onto the horns. One of the possibilies is to use paste wax. It improved the appearance of my horns very much. Mix wax or grease with the correctly colored dirt and tree sap and you will likely come up with a similar substance to what gave the horns some of their original color.
On the positive side, both of my waterbuck horns did not loose their contrasting colors as much but still did respond positively to the paste wax rubbed in with a small brush.

Marv
08 March 2006, 15:31
cats
the more I read then think on it, the more I am certain I will just leave my horns and skins in Afr. . Take some quality pictures and be done with it.
IMHO the ruined horns,slashed capes,over priced crate/shipping costs, brokerage fees along with taxidermy fees here in the US seems like too much trouble these days for mounts to collect dust in my already too full den.
08 March 2006, 17:57
Rich Elliott
Jerry,
If he boiled them some more in fresh water is there a chance that some of it would rise to the top?
Rich Elliott


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08 March 2006, 18:15
stagman
I like the idea of the paste wax. The natural horns almost have a waxy look and I think the wax would fill in some of the cracks.

Reckon who makes a suitable wax????


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08 March 2006, 20:17
new_guy
quote:
Originally posted by Rich Elliott:
Jerry,
If he boiled them some more in fresh water is there a chance that some of it would rise to the top?
Rich Elliott


I've been told that boiling in soapy water (diswashing liquid) will help remove some of the fat. Anyone tried this?


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08 March 2006, 20:27
mfast
Stagman,

Try Johnson's Paste Wax, for example.

Marv
08 March 2006, 21:40
bobc
I have used a bee wax based furniture wax that is about the consistency of honey that I got at a high-end hardware store. It sure returned the luster to my kudu, gemsbok and eland horns. Bob
08 March 2006, 21:44
cats
little worse than looking at a nice mount such as kudu or gemsbuck and the horns look fake...as if someone put flat black paint on them.
08 March 2006, 22:45
calgarychef1
If I ever make it to the dark continent I think I'll try to be there to supervise the boiling. Seems to be a common problem...overboiling, and submerging the horns.

the chef
08 March 2006, 22:48
404WJJeffery
When I got my first trophy shipment from Africa, all my horns were painted black and cracked. I asked the next taxidermist about it, and they told me they can process the horns without painting them- leave them natural. I requested this, and have three orders waiting to receive....I'l let you iknow how they turn out.


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08 March 2006, 23:43
kudude
The best looking horns I have gotten came back from Namibia where they just put the skulls in old bath tubs and let them soak in the sun. They heated up but weren't heated to a temp at which the fats are released and saturate the horns or skulls. I did not understand how important it was then. Of course, in RSA in the northern Cape at 5000 ft, you have to add a little fire just to thaw the water! Kudude
09 March 2006, 05:19
crane
Shouldn't the skull be submerged with the bottom of the horns right at the water level? That is the only method I have ever seen used. Sounds like poor supervision on the PH's part to me.