22 November 2004, 19:53
RikkieRe: Hunt now in South Africa before it's too late
NitroX,
No exaggeration there - how she put it is actually scaringly accurate
23 November 2004, 08:52
500nitroIn terms of this new lunacy some 600,000 - the first phase of a 4 year exercise -people have to "re-licence" their existing legally licenced firearms next year.
To do this, one has to jump thru some hoops to get a Competency certificate, required for re-application.
Consider that this will require the clowns in Pretoria to isuue something like 2400 certificates a day (complete with background checks, fingerprint checks, National Intelligence agency check - and I thought the terrorists were running the country so they should know who they are)
Staff at firearms registry is around 20 when they actually pitch up for work or are not suspended for corruption.
Significantly. since the act was signed into law in July this year, fewer than a dozen (12)competency certificates have beeen issued.
My gut feel is that all licences will be refused as a matter of course. Those that take the application to appeal might get considered, the anc hoping that others will just say to heck with it and hand their weapons in for destruction.(or for certain of our ministers to sell on the black market - no pun intended)
24 November 2004, 06:39
shakari500 Nitro,
I don't disagree with your sentiments......but I hope you won't be offended when I say that I find your figures on the competancy certificates hard to believe.
I've just been issued with three and a buddy has been issued with another three......so that would mean that the two of us hold 50% of the certificates issued.
24 November 2004, 06:51
T.CarrEverything you would ever want to know about in crime in Africa
http://www.iss.org.za/Regards,
Terry
24 November 2004, 07:13
500nitroSteve,
I would be happy to be proven wrong about the competency certificates. This info came from a DFO who is one of the good guys.
Poslec was supposed to have started issuing proficiency certificates from 20th of Sept, to date, none have been issued!
Previous to that, some of the accredited training institutions had issued provisional proficiency certificates with which people could apply for their competency certificates. Poslec put a stop to this effective the 20th Sept.
Since then, stalemate!
Without a certificate from Poslec, CFR will no longer even look at applications.
I know, as a training provider we have been having a hell of a time with this lot.
24 November 2004, 07:22
shakariCould he mean 12 have been issued in his province?....rather than 12 in the entire country?
24 November 2004, 07:23
AtkinsonMaybe my glass is half full while others have half empty glasses, but I see a future for So. Africa, it will take time and understanding but all great changes come slow...
I am not yet ready to give up on her, and I am sure the hunting there will be there for a long time to come....even Zimbabwe will survive its terrible onslaught in time, thats Africa, you can wound her, but I doubt that you will ever kill her...???????????
I just hope I am right and the doomsday boys are wrong, but I refuse to give in to defeat, and to worry over things that I have no control over....
25 November 2004, 06:25
500nitroSteve,
look at the October issue of Magnum.
It indicates how many applications were received and processed in July/Aug of this year, and tell me if you think these lads have suddenly had a change of pace/heart.
Later,
J
