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How about Using ONE Bullet To Shoot TWO Elephants, A Year Appart?
23 October 2013, 19:06
SaeedHow about Using ONE Bullet To Shoot TWO Elephants, A Year Appart?
Any guesses?
23 October 2013, 19:13
fujotupuRecycle the one that was used and retrieved (in perfect shape) on last year's elephant

23 October 2013, 19:22
SaeedI forgot to add, each elephant was killed with a different caliber

23 October 2013, 19:34
Tim CarneyAny number of caliber possibilities for using the same bullet, Saeed:
-- 450 Nitro/450 No.2/500-450 H&H
-- 450-400 and 404 Jeffery (for the bolt users)
-- 375 H&H flanged magnum and 375 H&H rimless magnum (again for the bolt folks)
Regards, Tim
23 October 2013, 19:45
SaeedI shot an elephant using a Barnes Super Solid with a 416 Rigby Improved.
We recovered the bullet from the elephant, and I took it home.
A few weeks before my next safari, I thought it will be neat if I could shoot another elephant with it.
But this time I was taking my 375/404.
So I turned that bullet down on the lathe, and went back to Zimbabwe, and shot another elephant with it.
Sadly, it was a side brain shot, and the bullet went completely through.
23 October 2013, 21:01
SBTThat is very, very cool.
"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
23 October 2013, 21:42
skeetshotThat must be one heck of a chuck you used on that lathe

23 October 2013, 21:52
fujotupuquote:
Sadly, it was a side brain shot, and the bullet went completely through.
Aaargghh .... foul!
Have you forgotten that the only proper way to shoot an elephant is a "full frontal"?
Man if Robin Hood could do it with a bow and arrow .......
Saeed: Still the same recycled (turned) bullet.

23 October 2013, 23:45
Kyler HamannThat's pretty neat.
24 October 2013, 00:23
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24 October 2013, 00:47
tendramsquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I shot an elephant using a Barnes Super Solid with a 416 Rigby Improved.
We recovered the bullet from the elephant, and I took it home.
A few weeks before my next safari, I thought it will be neat if I could shoot another elephant with it.
That's you...always pinching pennies!

24 October 2013, 02:01
twoseventyCongratulations! Sounds like a fun project.
Tom
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24 October 2013, 07:34
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I shot an elephant using a Barnes Super Solid with a 416 Rigby Improved.
We recovered the bullet from the elephant, and I took it home.
A few weeks before my next safari, I thought it will be neat if I could shoot another elephant with it.
That's you...always pinching pennies!
If one has to continue to pay for Walter to go on safari, one has to find other ways of savings

Funny enough, it wasn't a very easy job doing that bullet on a normal lathe.
It took me quite a while to get it right, as my previous experience of turning bullets on that lathe have been an opening experience.
That is why we got a CNC lathe for our bullets.
24 October 2013, 07:59
Michael RobinsonSaeed, as you may know, John "Pondoro" Taylor reported that he once killed a half dozen, or was it seven, kudu with a single bullet, with one shot, and all at once.
Admittedly, elephant are somewhat larger than kudu. But still, only two? And on separate occasions? And with the assistance of a lathe?
Hardly comparable, old boy.

Mike
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24 October 2013, 10:40
505GSaeed
When double rifle and big bore ammo was scarce,
a friend of mine did reuse FMJ bullets again
if they were recovered from Buffalo.
He is good friends with Woodleigh and tested a lot of bullets as well (FMJ's).
Previously 500N with many thousands of posts !
24 October 2013, 18:33
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Tim Carney:
Any number of caliber possibilities for using the same bullet, Saeed:
-- 450 Nitro/450 No.2/500-450 H&H
-- 450-400 and 404 Jeffery (for the bolt users)
-- 375 H&H flanged magnum and 375 H&H rimless magnum (again for the bolt folks)
Regards, Tim
Tim, those are different cartridges not different calibers!quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I shot an elephant using a Barnes Super Solid with a 416 Rigby Improved.
We recovered the bullet from the elephant, and I took it home.
A few weeks before my next safari, I thought it will be neat if I could shoot another elephant with it.
But this time I was taking my 375/404.
So I turned that bullet down on the lathe, and went back to Zimbabwe, and shot another elephant with it.
Sadly, it was a side brain shot, and the bullet went completely through.
Saeed’s post above is the only way the same bullet could be used in DIFFERENT CALIBERS!.....................................................................

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24 October 2013, 20:36
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Any guesses?
Yes, I have an idea. You have to lead the second one a veeerrrry loooooonnnnng way.

24 October 2013, 20:43
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Carney:
Any number of caliber possibilities for using the same bullet, Saeed:
-- 450 Nitro/450 No.2/500-450 H&H
-- 450-400 and 404 Jeffery (for the bolt users)
-- 375 H&H flanged magnum and 375 H&H rimless magnum (again for the bolt folks)
Regards, Tim
Tim, those are different cartridges not different calibers!quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I shot an elephant using a Barnes Super Solid with a 416 Rigby Improved.
We recovered the bullet from the elephant, and I took it home.
A few weeks before my next safari, I thought it will be neat if I could shoot another elephant with it.
But this time I was taking my 375/404.
So I turned that bullet down on the lathe, and went back to Zimbabwe, and shot another elephant with it.
Sadly, it was a side brain shot, and the bullet went completely through.
Saeed’s post above is the only way the same bullet could be used in DIFFERENT CALIBERS!.....................................................................
Walter keeps telling me to do it the other way.
Kill an elephant with a 375, recover the bullet, and then use it in a 404 and shoot another elephant.
In fact, he said he would settle for two buffalo instead!
I am glad my brain does not function the same way as his!

24 October 2013, 21:28
D. Nelsonquote:
Originally posted by Wendell Reich:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Any guesses?
Yes, I have an idea. You have to lead the second one a veeerrrry loooooonnnnng way.

24 October 2013, 23:49
Labmanquote:
I am glad my brain does not function the same way as his!
I'm sure a whole lot of other people feel this way as well.
Tom Z
NRA Life Member
25 October 2013, 06:52
Rhysquote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Carney:
Any number of caliber possibilities for using the same bullet, Saeed:
-- 450 Nitro/450 No.2/500-450 H&H
-- 450-400 and 404 Jeffery (for the bolt users)
-- 375 H&H flanged magnum and 375 H&H rimless magnum (again for the bolt folks)
Regards, Tim
Tim, those are different cartridges not different calibers!quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I shot an elephant using a Barnes Super Solid with a 416 Rigby Improved.
We recovered the bullet from the elephant, and I took it home.
A few weeks before my next safari, I thought it will be neat if I could shoot another elephant with it.
But this time I was taking my 375/404.
So I turned that bullet down on the lathe, and went back to Zimbabwe, and shot another elephant with it.
Sadly, it was a side brain shot, and the bullet went completely through.
Saeed’s post above is the only way the same bullet could be used in DIFFERENT CALIBERS!.....................................................................
Walter keeps telling me to do it the other way.
Kill an elephant with a 375, recover the bullet, and then use it in a 404 and shoot another elephant.
In fact, he said he would settle for two buffalo instead!
I am glad my brain does not function the same way as his!
Easy enough to do. Just make a sabot to use for the second shot.
Yes it's cocked, and it has bullets too!!!
28 October 2013, 23:39
joesterI remember reading a story years ago in a "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" paperback titled something like..."The bullet that founds it mark after 25 years!"
it seems that a guy had shot and missed another guy in a dispute over a girl. 25 years later, that same "other guy" was logging the forest where the fight occurred. One tree stump (where the bullet lodged those many years ago) was too big to pull out w/ tractor. So the guy dynamited it and that old bullet struck & killed him... Gotta love Robert Ripley!