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01 March 2009, 16:56
Ohiosam
Lion Charge video
Sorry if this has been posted already. I thought it was cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVaD_cOX5so
01 March 2009, 17:09
Saeed
This has been around for a while.

Typical canned lion shoot, and they screwed it up too!


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01 March 2009, 17:37
Gary Wattis
Saeed,

Are you telling us Johan Calitz runs canned Lion

Shoots? I have a hunt booked with him (not Lion)

and would like to know? Do you know this as a

fact or is this just internet commentary?
01 March 2009, 17:52
perry
How can you tell it is canned?

Perry
01 March 2009, 17:53
tradewinds
That one was on one of the Versus Hunting shows. If I remember a lady client wounded the Lion and they where following it up when the charge accured.
01 March 2009, 18:18
jeff h
I would be shocked if Calitz hunts canned lion.
If fact I betting $50 it not a canned hunt.
Sneed if your going to make a charge like that you should back it up with some proof


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01 March 2009, 18:26
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Wattis:
Saeed,

Are you telling us Johan Calitz runs canned Lion

Shoots? I have a hunt booked with him (not Lion)

and would like to know? Do you know this as a

fact or is this just internet commentary?


Gary,

My appologies, this is NOT the canned hunt I meant.

I clicked on the link, and had to answer the phone.

Walter watched it, and I asked him if it was the one we keep seeing - that one one could clearly see the fence!

Being the nitwit he is, he is yes, and I left it at that.

Now I have looked at it after your comment, it is not the one.

This is a REAL lion hunt.


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01 March 2009, 18:31
Gary Wattis
Thanks Saeed, you had me wondering.
01 March 2009, 18:34
shakari
Gary,

Johan Carlitz is one of the best and you can rest assured you'll be getting a good quality, fair chase hunt.






01 March 2009, 18:43
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
Gary,

Johan Carlitz is one of the best and you can rest assured you'll be getting a good quality, fair chase hunt.


Can we offer him Walter as lion bait? clap


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01 March 2009, 19:18
shakari
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shakari:
Can we offer him Walter as lion bait? clap


I'd have thought the lions would have better taste than to want to eat Walter......... maybe the hyenas might be interested in him though? Wink






01 March 2009, 19:45
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shakari:
Can we offer him Walter as lion bait? clap


I'd have thought the lions would have better taste than to want to eat Walter......... maybe the hyenas might be interested in him though? Wink


Roy has been trying to feed him to the hyaenas for years, they absolutely refused him!

He is currently in one of his confused states.

He knew Roy and Alan and their families were coming to visit us the this month.

So Walter made "plans" of what to do with them.

Yesterday I mentioned that they are arriving on Tuesday morning.

Walter "YOU said they are coming on the THIRD! The THIRD is on THURSDAY, not Tuesday!"

Me "They are coming on the third, which happens to be next Tuesday. And just in case you try to blame something on me, I have absolutely no control on what day of the week falls on what date, so shut up and do some work!"

Walter "The third is Thursday, that is how I planned things"

Me "I suppose it never occured to you that February is only 28 days, has it?"

Walter "This is absolutely disasterous! The Zims always came in May, not February, so why have you two masterminds decided they should come in February?"

Me "They are coming in March, not February, and the decision is theirs when they wish to visit"

Walter "How come Roy can decide when and what he wants to do and you agree with him? When I decide on things you always say no"

Me "Life is a bitch ha? I suppose now you will start your endless campaign of trying to persuade us to take your Blaser? Don't even think about it, that bloody contraption is not going with us"

Walter "Typical! Once you make your mind, there is no change! I am NOT going to ask to take my beloved Blaser, because I like your rifle now almost as much as I like mine"

While this was going on, he was supposed to clean a pistol. He did, but there was no magazine!

Me "Where is the magazine?"
Walter "What magazine?"
Me "The magazine for that pistol you have just cleaned!?"

Walter, looking around the workshop, which is a bit of an adventure in our place "bloody hell, where has it gone?"

I could see Ali, one of my friends who comes here to shoot, grinning, so I knew he had the magazine. Ali normally does not play tricks on people. He is a quite, likeable guy, so I kept my mouth shut, and went to the computer.

A few minutes later, Walter decided to have a break, and have a cup of thyme tea, which he loves.

Ali took the magazine out of his pocket, and put it on the table were Walter was working. The table has so many things on it, one has to look very carefully to find anything.

Walter came back with his tea, and sat right next to the magazine! We kept quiet. He actualy put his tea cup right next to the magazine.

Me "When are you going to give me the magazine so I can shoot that pistol?"

Water "After I finish my tea! Bloody hell, it is HERE! I KNEW I did not loose it. Here it is, go shoot, and leave me in peace for a change!"

Life around Walter is one endless adventure!


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01 March 2009, 20:47
shakari
I can understand why you're considering the lion option for him! Wink






01 March 2009, 22:36
PSmith
very cool


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02 March 2009, 00:21
Scott450
Botswana hunt, client is Dotty Fossel, original PH Garth Robinson, Johan and Ronnie came to help out after Lion was wounded, Ronnie brained it from a kneeling position, great shot by Ronnie and even better camera work by the guy with the biggest balls - Camera man Rayno Egner www.raynoegner.blogspot.com

Calitz definitely does NOT do canned hunts

Doing that with just a camera in your hand is phenomenal!
02 March 2009, 05:55
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Have you guys read the string on this video on the doublegunshop.com board? I can't believe I'm reading that crap on a gun board.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/f...t&Number=138164&page
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02 March 2009, 07:54
retreever
It was interesting to see many of the PH's kneeling to get at the same level of the lion, when and decided to charge...

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02 March 2009, 08:11
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Looks like they have some trolls.


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02 March 2009, 18:55
shootaway
Was this lion wounded before it charged?
02 March 2009, 19:03
JPK
Yes, apparently by the woman client. The woman's PH recruited some help to follow up the lion. Smart move, eh?

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02 March 2009, 19:41
shootaway
I should've read the entire thread.With what and where was it wounded?
02 March 2009, 21:37
Scott450
First shot in the foot, i think with .375H&H,the caliber is irrelevant when you shoot it in the foot!
02 March 2009, 21:50
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by Scott450:
First shot in the foot, i think with .375H&H,the caliber is irrelevant when you shoot it in the foot!


I bet it would have died from a shot in the foot from a 700NE!

And we are being told bigger is better! Wink


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02 March 2009, 23:04
JohnDL
On the slow motion film it appears the lion is hit in the right shoulder before the head shot. It takes balls to stand your ground like he did.
02 March 2009, 23:57
MARK H. YOUNG
As Scott stated the lady client wounded the lion and the PH called the cavalry to help. Ronnie Crouse who I have hunted with did brain the lion. Why he was out in front further than anyone else making himself the natural target I don't know. None of us were there so we are just armchairing this thing anyway.

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03 March 2009, 00:42
Michael Robinson
They were lucky they had open ground.

And needless to say, it was a smart move on the PH's part to get help.

Brains, nerve and skill settled that lion's account.


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03 March 2009, 02:05
shootaway
I wonder why she missed the lion?
03 March 2009, 02:54
JTEX
Holey smokes!!!!!!!!!
03 March 2009, 05:45
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
This has been around for a while.

Typical canned lion shoot, and they screwed it up too!


Saeed that was not a canned lion hunt! That was Johan Calitz and party in Botswana, and the PH Ronnie Crouse is the one who shot that lion right in the face at 1 yard! Eeker

I think the one you are thinking of was the one in RSA in a fenced area, that koncked the client hunter down as he passed. That one has been around for a long time, but the Calitz lion is fairly new, and was not in any fenced area, just gut shot, and pissed off! You noticed that Johan, and the rest know how to shoot a lion in a charge, from a kneeling position, to put yourself on the same level as the lion so the shot is not from above makeing it easier to miss! thumb


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03 March 2009, 06:06
retreever
I think it is interesting how that cat locked on one guy and came for him...

Mike


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03 March 2009, 06:25
LionHunter
The concept of getting as many guns as possible for a wounded Lion follow-up is very common and always a good idea. A wounded Lion, just as this one, will select an individual and not deviate its course once it begins its charge. We refer to that as tunnel vision, and I have seen such behavior in wounded Lion on more than one occasion.

As to the selected subject of the charge, I have also observed that holding ones water until the animal is very close, thus increasing the possibility of a fatal shot at barrels end, increases the chance for survivability and decreases the chance of injury. The other shooters will be trying to end it before he gets to you, but it seems, more often than not, to resolve on top of the selected ones boots. Most designees seem to get hit by the dying or dead Lion as momentum carries it forward. Tough to stop 500 pounds of pissed Lion moving at warp speed.

Great footage - the cameraman is to be congratulated - and I'm glad it was sorted out without injury to anyone. Well done by Johan and all.


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03 March 2009, 13:11
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quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott450:
First shot in the foot, i think with .375H&H,the caliber is irrelevant when you shoot it in the foot!


I bet it would have died from a shot in the foot from a 700NE!

And we are being told bigger is better! Wink

i saw a lion shot through the paw with a 308 died on the spot



he was scratching his ear with that paw jumping lol


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04 March 2009, 08:29
Indy
Looks to me like he shot the lion about six or seven yards away and momentum just carried it on.

Also. I thought it was interesting that he got up and shook hands before putting an insurance shot into the lion.


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20 March 2009, 14:04
Matt Graham
Somewhere I saw an article article by the guy who killed the lion.... anyone know where I could find it??


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20 March 2009, 14:39
ozhunter
Certainly would like a double in such a instance. Wink
21 March 2009, 00:48
MARK H. YOUNG
Matt,

If I rememer correctly Ronnie wrote it up for MAGNUM.

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21 March 2009, 10:47
Matt Graham
thanks Mark - I was sure I saw it posted here though??? Maybe it was another forum??

I'll keep looking...

thanks
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21 March 2009, 17:03
euge
Matt,

It was posted here, I think by Saeed. It was interesting to hear the story from the shooters perspective.
21 March 2009, 23:48
Scott450
Their cameraman was Rayno Egner, he is a really good PH and probably one of the best Safari cameramen in the field at the moment. Being a PH he anticipates and reads the hunt really well and that combined with his videography skills make him one of the best
22 March 2009, 06:43
Harris
Amazing video!!
You can see the lights going off in the lion's eyes when the final bullet hits the head. Great camera work.


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