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01 December 2016, 06:12
dogcat
WHat is Shikar-Safari Club International?
I have a book that is the 50th anniversary record of the Shikar-Safari Club International. Anyone know about it? I did a little internet searching and came up with very little.
01 December 2016, 06:13
Wesheltonj
I have met someone who belonged. All I could get out of him was its by invitation only.
01 December 2016, 06:21
Opus1
Back in the day (50's to the late 70's) it was the most exclusive hunting club around. It was invitation only and was the who's who of the hunting world. It included hunters from around the globe and truly some of the greats. Was quite an honor to belong. Still around to this day but I believe there was a major falling out in the late 70's to early 80's and the core group fragmented.


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01 December 2016, 06:44
larryshores
It is still around. It is by invitation only and they have a limited number of members. It is largely big money people. I know a couple of members.

Last year I was at an NRA Hunters Leadership Forum Meeting. The Shikar Safari Club presented the NRA HLF a check for $1 million.
01 December 2016, 06:49
MikeBurke
Larry,
That cannot be true. You know those rich bastards just sit around giving each other awards. They would not do anything for conservation or to preserve our hunting rights.
01 December 2016, 06:56
larryshores
That is surely what some think Mike.

The interesting thing was that the guy who presented the check was dressed horribly . Most would have never thought that he was getting ready to present $10 much less $1 million.
01 December 2016, 07:12
fulvio
quote:
The interesting thing was that the guy who presented the check was dressed horribly . Most would have never thought that he was getting ready to present $10 much less $1 million.


Never judge a book by its cover!
01 December 2016, 07:21
MJines
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
That is surely what some think Mike.

The interesting thing was that the guy who presented the check was dressed horribly . Most would have never thought that he was getting ready to present $10 much less $1 million.


Reminds me of a funny story Larry. When I was in college, my college roommate and I came to visit by future wife. My father-in-law was a real estate investor and had done very well for himself. We drove into the neighborhood that they lived in and the houses were quite substantial. My roommate was a bit taken aback. We pulled up in front of their house and there was a fellow working in the yard trimming shrubs in a tattered shirt and pants wearing an old floppy hat. My roommate said, "Damn, they even have a gardener." It was my father-in-law. Big Grin


Mike
01 December 2016, 07:31
billrquimby
The fragmentation in the 1970s that Opus1 mentioned, I believe, resulted from a conflict between C.J. McElroy and a couple of Texans. Mac walked out and formed Safari Club International.

One of those Texans, I was told, was Coca-Cola magnate Harry Tennison of Fort Worth, who also was president and board chairman of Game Conservation International (Game Coin) at the time.

I know three members of Shikar-Safari well, and two of them are not as wealthy as this thread might suggest. The club not only is by invitation only, but it also had a cap on the number of members at one time. (I don't know if there still is one, but it was limited to 100 as I remember it.)

I suspect SSI still includes the who's who of the international hunting world with members all over the globe.

Bill Quimby
01 December 2016, 07:33
Bwana1
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
It is still around. It is by invitation only and they have a limited number of members. It is largely big money people. I know a couple of members.

Last year I was at an NRA Hunters Leadership Forum Meeting. The Shikar Safari Club presented the NRA HLF a check for $1 million.


It is a private club made up of international big game hunters from around the world. I am proud to have been a member since 1984. They have an annual meeting that is mostly social.
The club has a foundation that supports hunting and conservation efforts around the world.
02 December 2016, 00:24
dogcat
Thanks. I am reading the 50th anniversary book and there are many familiar names in it and many I do not know. There is no website that I could fine either.
Interesting to say the least.
02 December 2016, 01:01
bcap
I know we should all kiss there ass now right after all that million means more then the millions the regular guy gives. You guys who think your an elite hunter because of were or what you hunt just kill me. I can tell you now there is many more hunters as good or better then that. They just hunt and don't need some club to make themselves feel better.

Plus as normally you put that many bigheads in one club they always fall apart in short time.

And by the way I have a few friends who have plenty of money and hunt all over and I am happy for them. But then there all humble enough to not act like a few online who think there very special.
02 December 2016, 01:20
larryshores
quote:
Originally posted by bcap:
I know we should all kiss there ass now right after all that million means more then the millions the regular guy gives. You guys who think your an elite hunter because of were or what you hunt just kill me. I can tell you now there is many more hunters as good or better then that. They just hunt and don't need some club to make themselves feel better.

Plus as normally you put that many bigheads in one club they always fall apart in short time.

And by the way I have a few friends who have plenty of money and hunt all over and I am happy for them. But then there all humble enough to not act like a few online who think there very special.


I have not seen a single one of them on here or anywhere else bragging of their exploits. To my knowledge, there was no publication of the $1 million gift. The only reason I know about it is because I was there and I witnessed the check being handed over. They did it to help preserve hunting, pure and simple. In my book, that is pretty admirable.

Of the two members I know, one is a great guy, a great hunter , all about conservation and of relatively average means. The other gentleman is a great hunter, all about conservation, very rich and a total jerk on a personal level. By the way, he was a jerk before he was wealthy. He was born that way..

I am not sure how you came to your conclusions . I dare say that you did this without knowing these people and their motivation. I have seen nothing but positive out of this group.
02 December 2016, 01:32
Opus1
These guys are not record book thumpers.


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02 December 2016, 01:43
dogcat
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
quote:
Originally posted by bcap:
I know we should all kiss there ass now right after all that million means more then the millions the regular guy gives. You guys who think your an elite hunter because of were or what you hunt just kill me. I can tell you now there is many more hunters as good or better then that. They just hunt and don't need some club to make themselves feel better.

Plus as normally you put that many bigheads in one club they always fall apart in short time.

And by the way I have a few friends who have plenty of money and hunt all over and I am happy for them. But then there all humble enough to not act like a few online who think there very special.


I have not seen a single one of them on here or anywhere else bragging of their exploits. To my knowledge, there was no publication of the $1 million gift. The only reason I know about it is because I was there and I witnessed the check being handed over. They did it to help preserve hunting, pure and simple. In my book, that is pretty admirable.

Of the two members I know, one is a great guy, a great hunter , all about conservation and of relatively average means. The other gentleman is a great hunter, all about conservation, very rich and a total jerk on a personal level. By the way, he was a jerk before he was wealthy. He was born that way..

I am not sure how you came to your conclusions . I dare say that you did this without knowing these people and their motivation. I have seen nothing but positive out of this group.


Just asking about a group of interesting folks. I like rich folks, especially the ones that support my hobbies...
No need to worry who is the "better" hunter. The absolute best hunters I know are the pygmies I hunted with in Cameroon. Those guys (and the Namibian bushmen) know more of hunting than us white guys will ever know....and they own what they wear.
02 December 2016, 01:46
bcap
quote:
Originally posted by Opus1:
These guys are not record book thumpers.


I did not say they were or even a problem. It is the few guys who thought they were funny with there comments on this thread. I am sure when they did the million dollars it was for the right reason with out a doubt. I would bet they also do not look to be praised at all.

Some on here like to make comments and don't get the divide they cause. The sad part is it is normally just guys talking shit and for what.

There is room for all hunters and that goes for the guy who hunts for dinner to the guy who spends a boat load to go hunt. I am find with them all but some seem to think they are better and that is the problem as I see.
02 December 2016, 01:48
larryshores
I guess I missed all of that.
02 December 2016, 01:52
dogcat
quote:
Originally posted by MikeBurke:
Larry,
That cannot be true. You know those rich bastards just sit around giving each other awards. They would not do anything for conservation or to preserve our hunting rights.


This group does not "do" awards, that is what SCI and Grand Slam Club/Ovis do.
02 December 2016, 02:10
larryshores
Ross:

Mike was making a joke with a point. He was not at all serious in his comments.
02 December 2016, 02:18
MikeBurke
quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeBurke:
Larry,
That cannot be true. You know those rich bastards just sit around giving each other awards. They would not do anything for conservation or to preserve our hunting rights.


This group does not "do" awards, that is what SCI and Grand Slam Club/Ovis do.


Need a sarcasm button. I respect these guys.
02 December 2016, 03:20
Bwana1
quote:
Originally posted by bcap:
I know we should all kiss there ass now right after all that million means more then the millions the regular guy gives. You guys who think your an elite hunter because of were or what you hunt just kill me. I can tell you now there is many more hunters as good or better then that. They just hunt and don't need some club to make themselves feel better.

Plus as normally you put that many bigheads in one club they always fall apart in short time.

And by the way I have a few friends who have plenty of money and hunt all over and I am happy for them. But then there all humble enough to not act like a few online who think there very special.


Bcap. Have you ever heard of SSCI before you read this thread? My guess is no.
Yet, you have a lot to say about something you know nothing about.
02 December 2016, 03:44
bcap
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
quote:
Originally posted by bcap:
I know we should all kiss there ass now right after all that million means more then the millions the regular guy gives. You guys who think your an elite hunter because of were or what you hunt just kill me. I can tell you now there is many more hunters as good or better then that. They just hunt and don't need some club to make themselves feel better.

Plus as normally you put that many bigheads in one club they always fall apart in short time.

And by the way I have a few friends who have plenty of money and hunt all over and I am happy for them. But then there all humble enough to not act like a few online who think there very special.


Bcap. Have you ever heard of SSCI before you read this thread? My guess is no.
Yet, you have a lot to say about something you know nothing about.


Read it again I had nothing to say about you or the group. I said about others who put you or any other hunter or group above any other hunter. I don't need anyone to be my idol or look up to do what is right to support all hunters. yes I have heard of ssci but just online and that is enough for me. They want to be a secret group and that is there right.
02 December 2016, 04:24
Biebs
That Burke guy's a troublemaker! :-)
02 December 2016, 04:36
MikeBurke
quote:
Originally posted by Biebs:
That Burke guy's a troublemaker! :-)


Yes I am. And the most elite welder around.


02 December 2016, 04:47
Opus1
Dude, TIG welders are the Mozarts of welding.


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02 December 2016, 04:50
MikeBurke
Aluminum Tig!!!!
02 December 2016, 04:56
COYOTE HUNTER
Whatcha building there?
Looks like a shallow draft salmon boat?
02 December 2016, 05:02
MikeBurke
20 foot long aluminum bateaux, or flat bottom boat for you non Cajuns. I will power it with a tiller handle 90 Mercury.
02 December 2016, 05:05
MikeBurke
dogcat: Sorry for the complete hijack of your thread

Bwana1: It would be a huge honor to be invited in such a organization. Congratulations to you sir!!
02 December 2016, 05:08
Bwana1
quote:
Originally posted by MikeBurke:
dogcat: Sorry for the complete hijack of your thread

Bwana1: It would be a huge honor to be invited in such a organization. Congratulations to you sir!!


Thank you, Mike.
02 December 2016, 07:14
dogcat
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
Ross:

Mike was making a joke with a point. He was not at all serious in his comments.


Sorry, my literal thinking misled me.
02 December 2016, 07:27
Pir_Danish
My friend Bruce Keller who is hunting with me in January is this years president of the Shikar safari Club. I will get more information about this when he arrives and I can post it here if you like.
02 December 2016, 07:35
BaxterB
quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Thanks. I am reading the 50th anniversary book and there are many familiar names in it and many I do not know. There is no website that I could fine either.
Interesting to say the least.


Probably why it's still around.
02 December 2016, 09:15
Cougarz
I have the book too. Pretty interesting reading. It would be fun spending an evening hearing some of their hunting stories.

I just knew someone had to insert the jealous card somewhere in the conversation. lol 2020


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02 December 2016, 14:33
dogcat
quote:
Originally posted by Pir_Danish:
My friend Bruce Keller who is hunting with me in January is this years president of the Shikar safari Club. I will get more information about this when he arrives and I can post it here if you like.


Pir,
Thanks! I would be quite interested to know more.
02 December 2016, 15:12
Wowo
MikeBurke

Send the Boat, please!

Regards

Leon
02 December 2016, 15:40
shakari
I'm going from half forgotten memory but have a vague idea the original Shikar Club was a London based 'gentlemen's club' for well known hunters & I think established in the time of the Raj & even then was by invitation only.

I'd guess the American version was copied from that.






02 December 2016, 16:24
Venture South
quote:
I'm going from half forgotten memory but have a vague idea the original Shikar Club was a London based 'gentlemen's club' for well known hunters & I think established in the time of the Raj & even then was by invitation only.


The Shikar Club[note 1] is an international sporting club founded in London in 1909 by Old Boys of Eton and Rugby to champion the cause of hunting and in particular big game hunting. Its founding members included: Frederick Courtney Selous, P. B. Vanderbyl and Charles Edward Radclyffe.[1]


On 7 June 1909 at the Café Royal, Regent Street in London more than seventy well known hunting and shooting men met at an inaugural dinner to found the Shikar Club. The event was presided over by the Earl of Lonsdale[2] and The Field for June 1909 devoted a page and a half to a description of the event. A discussion took place after the meal at which a committee was formed to write a constitution of the Club at their leisure.[3]

The Shikar Club promoted shooting at international shooting exhibitions with the clear expression of big game hunting within legitimate class and national identities,[4] The courageous feats of members were celebrated with the emphasis being on danger within a moral philosophy of ‘fair play’.
Membership

The membership of the club included many high-ranking military men, such as Sir Claude de Crespigny, described as "one of the hardest and pluckiest men in England… ready to box, ride, walk, run, shoot, fence, sail or swim with anyone over fifty on equal terms".[5] The club's constitution recognises and reinforces the virtues of fair play and duty, as defined by its mostly public school and upper class membership.

The society once championed big-game hunters, who included: Abel Chapman, Alfred Pease, Hilary Hook and Maurice Egerton, who in pursuit of big game travelled the globe hunting. Some members, such as Thomas Alexander Barns, H. A. Bryden and C. W. L. Bulpett, published books and articles on hunting and exploring, while others were artists and naturalists, men such as John Guille Millais.

The Shikar Club continues to exist and meets regularly at the Savoy Hotel, London, for the purposes of continuing the tradition of hunting and shooting. The emphasis today is on sustainable hunting and the conservation of wildlife. An aristocratic membership continues, with Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh amongst the club's present day members.


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02 December 2016, 16:30
Venture South
noun
Indian

[mass noun] Hunting as a sport:
‘shikar became a favourite pastime for British and Indian nobility alike’
[as modifier] ‘his shikar adventures’
[count noun] ‘shooting things with a camera on shikars and treks’

Origin

From Urdu and Persian šikār.


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02 December 2016, 16:45
Venture South
quote:
Has nothing to do with the Shikar Club, SCI, or any other Club.


That was the Wiki result.
I would not be surprised if there were quite a few clubs that used the name "shikar" in some form or other.


I found this on the Texas Game Wardens site. Really nice gesture that the SSCI have made in supporting the children of active wardens wanting to work in the field.

Shikar Safari Club Scholarship

Shikar Safari Club is proudly taking applications from undergraduates and graduates. These scholarships will be given on a yearly basis. And will be given in the amount of $4,000.00 each for those currently involved in the studies of Wildlife Management, Range Management and Law Enforcement.

Applicant requirements are as follows:

Must be a son or daughter of an active or retired Game Warden, or a Game Warden interested in Continuing Education, of the United States of America or Canada.
Course work hours qualifying as a Sophomore at the time of application.
Must have a strong PRO HUNTING viewpoint on wildlife management and land management.
Must be an active hunter.
Must have a 3.0 or better grade point average.
Must show good leadership abilities
Graduate students must send a copy of the Thesis project information. No more than 1 page.
Graduate students need to include both undergraduate and graduate transcripts

For those students interested in applying, please send a total of seven (7) pages. This application must have, an introductory cover letter, a resume including those courses yet to be completed, an official transcript, two (2) letters of recommendation and a current photograph. This information must be turned in and in my possession no later than May 1, 2014. Applications accepted after May 1 will be applied to the following year.


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