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Burkina Faso Elephant Herd Charge
07 March 2014, 03:21
Beretta682EBurkina Faso Elephant Herd Charge
Saw some very strange, aggressive and dangerous elephant behavior in Burkina.
Whole herds of Elephants charging including little babies.
A double would be useless.
Having some issues uploading the whole video. Photobucket sucks. Last 30 seconds are missing in this edition of the upload.
Mike
07 March 2014, 05:34
jorgeMaybe have a radio and call in some CAS?
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07 March 2014, 06:20
JudgeGThis, too, was in Burkina Faso. Angry ladies!
I didn't need CAS. I needed fresh underwear.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
07 March 2014, 08:02
medvedthey encounters with men maybe were not that good.
poachers may be the answer.
Judge, your photo shows archery gear. Did you go over and hunt with bow and arrow or was it someone else? I would really like to hear from anyone who has hunted West Africa with archery gear both in terms of success and the type of hunt and experience.
JCHB
07 March 2014, 16:32
JudgeGIt's a old picture, maybe 1996 or so? I hunted Burkina Faso with a recurve bow for PG and used a .404 Jeffery for buffalo. I certainly was the first bowhunter ever in the Nazinga concession.
My P.H. had never guided a bowhunter, but after lots of trial and error, we got permission from the local council to hunt near a water hole and I saw lots of game coming and going. I killed an orbi while doing spot and stalk and a waterbuck coming down a trail about 200 yards from water. I probably could have taken more game, but my primary focus was on buffalo with my rifle.
I'm sure someone with a wheels and whistles compound could do just fine as I limited my shooting to 20 yards and was within 40 yards of game multiple times.
The primary thing I'd look for in choosing where I hunted would be the experience of the P.H. with bowhunters.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
08 March 2014, 00:57
Beretta682E
08 March 2014, 07:58
samirI have never seen a place where elephants had had such a hatred for humans. I didn't notice any poaching, but something must cause their bad behavior. Then again I've never seen a country in Africa where the crocs don't eat humans.
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08 March 2014, 08:53
emronI was there last spring. There were 3 poached elephants that we saw in the Pama Nord area, just in the two weeks I was there. These elephants have been harassed. We were also chased while driving down a track by a mixed herd.
08 March 2014, 09:07
Beretta682EThere is serious or more correct indiscriminate elephant poaching if there is such a thing.
Poachers are killing very young females.
A different group of hunters encountered a group of poacher and they high tailed it out. They left behind the tusks. The tusks were smaller than most hippo tusk. Probably weighed 5-7 pounds.
Saw the body and it was juvenile female at best.
The poaching has pushed the elephants out of the national park (Arly) into the hunting areas as the hunting areas are less populated and safer. The poachers are following.
The lions have also been hammering the young elephant pretty hard. Lots of elephant hair in lion scat.
The herds are unhinged. They are emotionally and structurally unbalanced and dangerous.
They attack at a whim and they attack as a herd.
A elephant encounter dominated the whole safari and made a lion hunt seem irrelevant.
I feel really sad for the elephants. But they are dangerous as hell and Will CAUSE FATALITIES.
I have no idea how they are rehabilitated. I would like to shoot one of these poachers and am willing to pay top dollar for that trophy.
Mike
08 March 2014, 09:36
PD999quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
I would like to shoot one of these poachers and am willing to pay top dollar for that trophy.
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09 March 2014, 19:44
Larry SellersMaybe should have contacted Darth Beibs. He most likely could have handled this situation with his R8 Blaser without incident!!
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09 March 2014, 20:58
Beretta682EBiebs was a true gentleman - he let me shoot his blaser and borrow a 375 barnes tsx to finish of a kob.
Unless blaser makes a 30 round magazine - even Biebs would be under gunned.
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by samir:
I have never seen a place where elephants had had such a hatred for humans. I didn't notice any poaching, but something must cause their bad behavior. Then again I've never seen a country in Africa where the crocs don't eat humans.
The Save Conservancy in Zim has elephants that hate humans and will attack on sight. The elephants are very aggressive, always riled up and always pissed off.
The Save elephants are from Gonarezhou National Park, where they were poached and terrorized by the rebels during the civil war. That war ended 34yrs ago and the elephants are still hyper aggressive.
JPK
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09 March 2014, 21:28
Beretta682EI have hunted the Save twice.
I will take Save elephants any day over Burkina Elephants.
It the Save - the elephants would form a protective circle and a lone female would do a mock charge. In Burkina the whole herd with babies (who could easily flatten and kill you) come charging at you often in a straight line of 15-20 elephants.
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Originally posted by JPK:
quote:
Originally posted by samir:
I have never seen a place where elephants had had such a hatred for humans. I didn't notice any poaching, but something must cause their bad behavior. Then again I've never seen a country in Africa where the crocs don't eat humans.
The Save Conservancy in Zim has elephants that hate humans and will attack on sight. The elephants are very aggressive, always riled up and always pissed off.
The Save elephants are from Gonarezhou National Park, where they were poached and terrorized by the rebels during the civil war. That war ended 34yrs ago and the elephants are still hyper aggressive.
JPK
10 March 2014, 02:06
BiebsMike, you're such a wuss :-)
10 March 2014, 02:28
Beretta682EBeibs - you want to go into a riverbed ? Heard there are some good lion tracks there?
How was the trip back?
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
I have hunted the Save twice.
I will take Save elephants any day over Burkina Elephants.
It the Save - the elephants would form a protective circle and a lone female would do a mock charge. In Burkina the whole herd with babies (who could easily flatten and kill you) come charging at you often in a straight line of 15-20 elephants.
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Originally posted by JPK:
quote:
Originally posted by samir:
I have never seen a place where elephants had had such a hatred for humans. I didn't notice any poaching, but something must cause their bad behavior. Then again I've never seen a country in Africa where the crocs don't eat humans.
The Save Conservancy in Zim has elephants that hate humans and will attack on sight. The elephants are very aggressive, always riled up and always pissed off.
The Save elephants are from Gonarezhou National Park, where they were poached and terrorized by the rebels during the civil war. That war ended 34yrs ago and the elephants are still hyper aggressive.
JPK
While hunting the riverine bush at Humani, we were charged by a whole herd. We were able to elude them in the thick bush, but then they took up our tracks and tracked us for a couple of miles.
We had to jog most of the time to stay ahead of them. After a couple of miles we were getting tired, and lucked upon a dry pan - might not have been luck thinking about it, maybe the PH was leading us there for a stand.
Anyway, we went to the middle of the pan and counted ammo. It was toward the end of season and the end of a seven week safari for me, and both the PH and I were light on ammo. IIRC, we had thirteen or fourteen rounds between us, and the PH noted that our shooting would need to be good to survive and that we should try to drop the first two elephants and move to the those two we dropped so we had some protection.
We got lucky, I guess. The elephants reached the edge of the cover and went ballistic, screaming and pushing down trees for 20 minutes, but they wouldn't come out of the cover.
All that aside, my point was that the poaching and disruption at Gonarezhou had made the elephants aggressive and ornery, that it ended about 34yrs ago and they were still aggressive and ornery.
BTW, I have done a fair bit of running and hiding in the Save with good success, but I have had to shoot a cow in the Save in self defense as well.
JPK
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10 March 2014, 03:07
Beretta682EScary
After my last run in i dont like being anywhere near elephants
Mike
quote:
Originally posted by JPK:
quote:
Originally posted by Beretta682E:
I have hunted the Save twice.
I will take Save elephants any day over Burkina Elephants.
It the Save - the elephants would form a protective circle and a lone female would do a mock charge. In Burkina the whole herd with babies (who could easily flatten and kill you) come charging at you often in a straight line of 15-20 elephants.
quote:
Originally posted by JPK:
quote:
Originally posted by samir:
I have never seen a place where elephants had had such a hatred for humans. I didn't notice any poaching, but something must cause their bad behavior. Then again I've never seen a country in Africa where the crocs don't eat humans.
The Save Conservancy in Zim has elephants that hate humans and will attack on sight. The elephants are very aggressive, always riled up and always pissed off.
The Save elephants are from Gonarezhou National Park, where they were poached and terrorized by the rebels during the civil war. That war ended 34yrs ago and the elephants are still hyper aggressive.
JPK
While hunting the riverine bush at Humani, we were charged by a whole herd. We were able to elude them in the thick bush, but then they took up our tracks and tracked us for a couple of miles.
We had to jog most of the time to stay ahead of them. After a couple of miles we were getting tired, and lucked upon a dry pan - might not have been luck thinking about it, maybe the PH was leading us there for a stand.
Anyway, we went to the middle of the pan and counted ammo. It was toward the end of season and the end of a seven week safari for me, and both the PH and I were light on ammo. IIRC, we had thirteen or fourteen rounds between us, and the PH noted that our shooting would need to be good to survive and that we should try to drop the first two elephants and move to the those two we dropped so we had some protection.
We got lucky, I guess. The elephants reached the edge of the cover and went ballistic, screaming and pushing down trees for 20 minutes, but they wouldn't come out of the cover.
All that aside, my point was that the poaching and disruption at Gonarezhou had made the elephants aggressive and ornery, that it ended about 34yrs ago and they were still aggressive and ornery.
BTW, I have done a fair bit of running and hiding in the Save with good success, but I have had to shoot a cow in the Save in self defense as well.
JPK
10 March 2014, 03:58
Biebsquote:
How was the trip back?
Mike, it was a piece of cake...thanks. We'll need to hook up again. How about an Elephant hunt? :-)
10 March 2014, 06:39
Beretta682EBiebs - I bet you would also ask Mrs. Lincoln to a play at the Ford Theater.
From now on I will leave town when the circus comes such is my fear of elephants.
Mike
