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Capstick was a fraud.
12 August 2009, 22:52
Die Ou JagterCapstick was a fraud.
Capstick was a very good wordsmith nothing more nothing less. Who else would refer to "Taking those pajamas of the Zebra" as the skinning of same.
12 August 2009, 23:32
eurocentricAnyone else posts after me and i will issue a FATWA and call for their death.
13 August 2009, 00:46
Die Ou JagterBring it on.

I just couldn't resist!
14 August 2009, 14:45
Mike SmithFraud or not it was Capsticks books that got me interested into going to Africa. For that I owe the man. I dont really care if the experiences were his or gleaned from others. His talent for writing is what counts not his status as a ph.
Happiness is a warm gun
28 August 2009, 13:56
umshiniwamAll I can add is...
why spoil a good story with the truth?
I started reading Capstick when I was 10 years old and even at that age I had a smeaky suspicion that he was flying the odd kite. I did not let that detract from the experience of reading his works though. Perhasp I just wanted to believe that it was all true and that an individual could live such a fantastic life. Clearly I am not the only one as he sold so many books.
In one of his books, I think it was "Return to the long grass" he even conceded that the safari industry locals referred to him as the BSA.
14 January 2010, 09:04
Dark ContinentI disagree and I have all of his books.
I think that he was a real Old Time African hand with tons of experience and I can't see why anyone would insult him except out of jealously.
He was a very well respected PH who who was licensed in many countries who killed many maneaters, was a cropping officer and had more experience than most men who are alive.
14 January 2010, 09:20
robncoloradoquote:
Originally posted by Dark Continent:
I disagree and I have all of his books.
I think that he was a real Old Time African hand with tons of experience and I can't see why anyone would insult him except out of jealously.
He was a very well respected PH who who was licensed in many countries who killed many maneaters, was a cropping officer and had more experience than most men who are alive.
Love Capstick as a read, but are you on crack??...LOL
14 January 2010, 09:21
BrettAKSCI
Oh lord! Let sleeping threads lie!!!
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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
14 January 2010, 09:49
Sevenxbjtquote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

Oh lord! Let sleeping threads lie!!!
Brett
So I've been thinking. What if I rechamber a pushfeed rem 700 to 45/70 and take it on a buffalo/lion hunt in RSA and try to get MS to ph for me?
Are there any dead horses I'm overlooking?
14 January 2010, 10:02
John FrederickDoes this mean that one has to read ALL previous threads before daring to post on this forum otherwise incur the wrath of the seasoned old posters by daring to go over old ground.
I certainly wouldn't want to upset anybody by boring them with something that had already been covered, perish the thought.

14 January 2010, 10:09
nopride2Who cares. True or not, he spun a good yarn.
Dave
14 January 2010, 10:26
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by John Frederick:
Does this mean that one has to read ALL previous threads before daring to post on this forum otherwise incur the wrath of the seasoned old posters by daring to go over old ground.
I certainly wouldn't want to upset anybody by boring them with something that had already been covered, perish the thought.
No. Welcome to the forum. There are certain topics that have been hacked to death and are violently combative every time they are mentioned. PHC is one of them. My comment was more ment to be ironic or humorous. Sorry.
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
14 January 2010, 10:28
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

Oh lord! Let sleeping threads lie!!!
Brett
So I've been thinking. What if I rechamber a pushfeed rem 700 to 45/70 and take it on a buffalo/lion hunt in RSA and try to get MS to ph for me?
Are there any dead horses I'm overlooking?
Yeah and John Pondoro Taylor will be your "travel companion" ie. "gay lover"!

Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
14 January 2010, 10:37
John Frederickquote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:
quote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

Oh lord! Let sleeping threads lie!!!
Brett
So I've been thinking. What if I rechamber a pushfeed rem 700 to 45/70 and take it on a buffalo/lion hunt in RSA and try to get MS to ph for me?
Are there any dead horses I'm overlooking?
Yeah and John Pondoro Taylor will be your "travel companion" ie. "gay lover"!

Brett
Now there's a HOT topic.....Pondoro gay, who would have guessed.
14 January 2010, 11:01
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by John Frederick:
Now there's a HOT topic.....Pondoro gay, who would have guessed.
Capstick!
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
14 January 2010, 12:39
NitroXWhen is the Capstick biography coming out?

14 January 2010, 14:16
BrettAKSCIquote:
Originally posted by NitroX:
When is the Capstick biography coming out?
Whenever MS stops letting animals decide how they want to die for long enough to write a book!!! Although I hear he should have some free time to start writing around January 20-24th year of our Lord 2010!

Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
14 January 2010, 14:21
John FrederickCapstick knockers.......legends in their own mind, non achievers and wannabees, dream on lads, you missed the boat and it's a one way passage.

14 January 2010, 17:00
Bwana NderoboI like Peter Capstick...
14 January 2010, 17:38
Jerry HuffakerWHAT ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!
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14 January 2010, 18:15
Die Ou JagterTHEY GONA LOOSE!

14 January 2010, 18:29
GanyanaCynically I don't think Fiona is ready yet for Peters Biography to come out yet...and if it is a true one..she'll be the person who writes it.
Also, A man called lion wasn't actually written by Peter...he "edited" Brian Marsh's work and made it alot more readable. I like Brian and I like his writing- (it was actually he who first got me writing for Magnum back in about 1991) but his style is a little dry and Peter had a comand of English that few others have ever had..the capstick turn of phrase...He owed Brian a favour and repaid it by "editing" the book and putting his name on it. That way both knew it would sell many thousand more copies than if it was "By Brian Marsh".
Taylor gay??? read his own book "Shadows of Shame"....He was that way inclined but did he ever actually cross the line or did the old BSAP policeman in him keep him straight when all his sences told him otherwise? My dad knew John reasonable well and that is his opinion - John was gay by inclination but never commited a homosexual act.
14 January 2010, 18:39
ledvmquote:
John was gay by inclination but never commited a homosexual act.
I doubt that is possible! Maybe...never commited a homosexual act that could be documented.
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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
14 January 2010, 18:48
wetdog2084Brett[/QUOTE]
So I've been thinking. What if I rechamber a pushfeed rem 700 to 45/70 and take it on a buffalo/lion hunt in RSA and try to get MS to ph for me?
Are there any dead horses I'm overlooking?[/QUOTE]

14 January 2010, 18:57
MikeBurkequote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

Oh lord! Let sleeping threads lie!!!
Brett
So I've been thinking. What if I rechamber a pushfeed rem 700 to 45/70 and take it on a buffalo/lion hunt in RSA and try to get MS to ph for me?
Are there any dead horses I'm overlooking?
Modify the safety to the Krieghoff cocking device and of course you would use Sierra Matchkings.
14 January 2010, 19:40
LeopardtrackGanyana,
I'd hate to be in a Leopard blind with him!
14 January 2010, 20:26
Idaho SharpshooterTaylor does specifically mention snuggling up with one of his black crew in his book. It was always rumored that the liaison with a black man got him tossed out of Africa. It is just so sad to see how he ended up his life.
Rich
14 January 2010, 20:28
TWLSevenxbjt:
Before you start that project, check with Jim Zumbo on his thoughts about the AR as a sporting rifle. And give Boddington a call. He may be able to hook you up with a free hunt, some good Gander Mtn gear and a really cool flashlight!!
As for where you hunt, make sure it's with an outfitter who has a booth at SCI, secured through the donation of both hunts and money, and is able to get you into the "inner circle." But the outfitter better not be a member of Namibia's NAPHA!
BTW...have you considered the relative differences among the 338-06, the 35 Whelen, and the 9.3?
114-R10David
14 January 2010, 20:31
Duckearquote:
Originally posted by Mike70560:
quote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
quote:
Originally posted by Brett Adam Barringer:

Oh lord! Let sleeping threads lie!!!
Brett
So I've been thinking. What if I rechamber a pushfeed rem 700 to 45/70 and take it on a buffalo/lion hunt in RSA and try to get MS to ph for me?
Are there any dead horses I'm overlooking?
Modify the safety to the Krieghoff cocking device and of course you would use Sierra Matchkings.
Be sure to have Ray book it for you. Have Doug Chester draw up all the contracts if needed.
Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps.
14 January 2010, 20:36
TWLNo contracts needed. The guys on AR will decide.
114-R10David
14 January 2010, 21:27
GanyanaProbably should start a new thread on John Taylor...It was his poaching that got him kicked out of Mozambique, It was his standing up for a (falsly??) acused black poacher tht got him drummed out of the police in Rhodesia.
During WWII his easy going maner with black troops was exploited by the Rhodesian contingent and the fact that he was a Moslem who could speak rough arabic was very useful in the invasion of Abasynia. Also many of the KAR troops were from Malawi (Nyasaland) and Moslem...and a Moslem officer who spoke their languge was a rare man!
However, after the war as the 'winds of change' spread, Taylor was seen as a liability - he openly championed the cause of greater black participation in government. Rumours of Homosexuality, being a moslem, wanted for poaching in Moz, suspected of poaching in Rhodesia...Then Nyasaland - which was a British colony joined Rhodesia (which was semi independant like Australia and Canada) to form The Federation or Rhodesia and Nyasaland bringing him within reach of the Rhodesian police who wished to ask about a few missing elephant. In the end it was easier simply to get rid of him and make him a brit government problem.
His Relationship with Ali Ndemanga who was his gun bearer was much closer than master and servant. Ali burried Taylor and was buried in the same grave when he died. They were friends/partners for nearly 30 years!
14 January 2010, 21:37
ledvmquote:
Ali burried Taylor and was buried in the same grave when he died.
Who was in front John or Ali???

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
14 January 2010, 21:38
TerryRwhat rate of twist are you going to have in that 45-70 barrel?
14 January 2010, 21:44
LeopardtrackGanyan,
Interesting stuff. I didn't know that he was a muslim...probably pretty rare for a white man there and then.
What do you think...homo or not?? I am leaning towards yes, since he wasn't known to have any women around him.
14 January 2010, 22:44
GanyanaLeopardtrack...Taylor wrote a 'fictional' book called "shadows of Shame" about a white hunter who is secretly a homosexual and in love with one of his workers (his gun bearer I think but it is MANY years since I read he book)...many belive it is Taylor telling his own story with names changed to protect the inocent.
However...when calling folk out...the BBC made a documenary on Cecil Rhodes and portrayed him as gay. He certainly was always surounded by young men and never a woman in sight. He admitted to kising only three women. His Mother, the queen and one other...In the boy scout hunt in the matopos is a portrate photograph of a very pretty black girl (woman)...and on the back in Rhodes own handwriting the inscription - 'The only woman I have ever loved and would have married here if it were not for the political consiquences'.
The Photograph was the only picture in Rhodes' bedroom when he died....
14 January 2010, 22:50
mboga biga bwanaquote:
However...when calling folk out...the BBC made a documenary on Cecil Rhodes and portrayed him as gay. He certainly was always surounded by young men and never a woman in sight. He admitted to kising only three women. His Mother, the queen and one other...In the boy scout hunt in the matopos is a portrate photograph of a very pretty black girl (woman)...and on the back in Rhodes own handwriting the inscription - 'The only woman I have ever loved and would have married here if it were not for the political consiquences'.
The Photograph was the only picture in Rhodes' bedroom when he died....
Thats interesting...

Seloushunter
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15 January 2010, 00:07
BrettAKSCIThis has certainly been hashed out before, but regardless of his sexually he was a complex and interesting African personality. To each their own!
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
15 January 2010, 01:00
John Frederickquote:
Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
Ganyana,
I'd hate to be in a Leopard blind with him!
Is that because you wouldn't be able to trust yourself.
Taylor would no doubt heave you out as soon as you went for the first grope.

15 January 2010, 01:15
John Frederickquote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Ali burried Taylor and was buried in the same grave when he died.
Who was in front John or Ali???
Another closet queer.
Isn't it fun to knock people when they are dead.
Whilst I may not know as much as Mr. Ganyana, I do know a lot about Pondoro and can say with confidence that he would have taken your smiling head off if you had been able to say that to his face, which of course, you would not have had the guts to do.

15 January 2010, 01:49
BrettAKSCIJohn,
Settle down a notch there partner. John Taylor may or may not have been gay. Either way it isn't an insult or taking away from who he was or what he did. I think a few were making a joke or two. Who cares.
Brett
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Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson