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13 August 2013, 00:19
MikeBurke
Mark Sullivan Lion (1 picture)
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
OK, you guys cheated when you opened up yet another Sullivan Lion thread. I predicted this one would go at least five pages so if you add the post from the other, I'd be right! Big Grin


No comment, just wanted to have the post that brought it to five pages.
13 August 2013, 03:06
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13 August 2013, 08:32
JBrown
quote:
Originally posted by fujotupu:
If you were to apply the "Sullivan Scale of Aging Lions" the photos you have just posted would put this animal's age at around 25 years! Big Grin


I was going to say the same thing, except that I was going to say 24 years... Now those are the teeth and the face of an old lion!


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13 August 2013, 12:08
jkhunter


Lhis Lion was a true 10 year + , it takes a
Phenomenal beast to survive for that long in the wild, he has the war wounds to prove it,
13 August 2013, 12:10
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13 August 2013, 12:11
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13 August 2013, 12:12
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13 August 2013, 12:13
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13 August 2013, 12:15
jkhunter


If you see how much Hair this beast still has at his Old age, he must have been a Monster when he was 7/8 years old,
13 August 2013, 17:18
ledvm
jkhunter,
Those are really great educational photos. Good demonstration of what tooth wear really looks like in an old wild lion. Thank you sir for posting!


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13 August 2013, 22:28
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50 year old specimen.




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23 August 2013, 09:26
ExpressYourself
quote:
Originally posted by Mike70560:
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
OK, you guys cheated when you opened up yet another Sullivan Lion thread. I predicted this one would go at least five pages so if you add the post from the other, I'd be right! Big Grin


No comment, just wanted to have the post that brought it to five pages.

Too funny Mike. Congrats on making the top of the page.


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14 February 2014, 20:07
ledvm
quote:
Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
Here is a lion that was killed yesterday in Tanzania. Mark asked me to post it up for him. I am not able to mention the specific area of the kill.



Mark felt the lion is likely 12 years plus. It is a fabulous lion to be certain. I thought some of you might enjoy seeing the photo.

Best regards,
Shawn


By now...Mark and the outfitter should have the official age of this lion as determined by the Tanzania authorities. It would be nice for him to post the official age along with the copy of the report for all of us to learn from.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
14 February 2014, 20:18
larryshores
I wish someone would post a list of characteristics of lions at different ages.

I have no idea how old that lion is but he looks old to me.
14 February 2014, 20:26
ledvm
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I wish someone would post a list of characteristics of lions at different ages.

I have no idea how old that lion is but he looks old to me.


Larry,
That is a fine lion...no questions asked. The point I want to drive home is that the chances of a hunter taking a wild 12 year old lion in todays Africa is astronomically low. And a 12 year old wild lion would be akin to a 90 year old man...he is going to look very old. Just the pics of the canines and incisors themselves is enough to remove him from the 12 year old category.

Aaron with very slight help from me did a very good presentation at a DSC local meeting.

It takes a fairly lengthy PP presentation to do it.

Maybe we could organize a webinar.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

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14 February 2014, 20:28
Bwana Bunduki
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I wish someone would post a list of characteristics of lions at different ages.

I have no idea how old that lion is but he looks old to me.


Larry,
That is a fine lion...no questions asked. The point I want to drive home is that the chances of a hunter taking a wild 12 year old lion in todays Africa is astronomically low. And a 12 year old wild lion would be akin to a 90 year old man.

Aaron with very slight help from me did a very good presentation at a DSC local meeting.

It takes a fairly lengthy PP presentation to do it.

Maybe we could organize a webinar.


I asked Aaron about PP presentation in another thread.

It would be awesome.

Jeff
14 February 2014, 20:30
ledvm
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
I wish someone would post a list of characteristics of lions at different ages.

I have no idea how old that lion is but he looks old to me.


Larry,
That is a fine lion...no questions asked. The point I want to drive home is that the chances of a hunter taking a wild 12 year old lion in todays Africa is astronomically low. And a 12 year old wild lion would be akin to a 90 year old man.

Aaron with very slight help from me did a very good presentation at a DSC local meeting.

It takes a fairly lengthy PP presentation to do it.

Maybe we could organize a webinar.


I asked Aaron about PP presentation in another thread.

It would be awesome.

Jeff


It takes about an hour of presentation to go over the topic well. And It is much better done in real-time.


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
16 February 2014, 06:30
ledvm
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
Here is a lion that was killed yesterday in Tanzania. Mark asked me to post it up for him. I am not able to mention the specific area of the kill.



Mark felt the lion is likely 12 years plus. It is a fabulous lion to be certain. I thought some of you might enjoy seeing the photo.

Best regards,
Shawn


By now...Mark and the outfitter should have the official age of this lion as determined by the Tanzania authorities. It would be nice for him to post the official age along with the copy of the report for all of us to learn from.


coffee


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
16 February 2014, 07:09
Matt Graham
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:

It takes about an hour of presentation to go over the topic well. And It is much better done in real-time.
Why not just film a seminar and upload it to Youtube? That way it can be used again and again.


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16 February 2014, 12:23
Milo Shanghai
quote:
Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
I just got back to this post. Again, I can’t comment on the age as I wasn't there and can only share what I was told. Aaron and Lane, I do appreciate your opinions and input judging by what is shown in the photo. I do not have info to share regarding where this lion was killed or anything additional.

I am glad so many are able to enjoy this fabulous lion and are engaging in positive conversation about him.

Regards,
Shawn



Hi Shawn,

Now that the age is known and you are able to comment I would be very interested to know the answer.

Best wishes,
Milo.
16 February 2014, 20:05
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16 February 2014, 22:44
Pieter Kriel
Regardless the age, congratulations to Mark and his hunter.

Thanks Shawn for posting.


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