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Originally posted by DLS:
Here is my email letter to Mr. Lemonis:

Mr. Lemonis,



I'm writing to you as a result of learning that Camping World has pulled their advertising on the television show 'The Apprentice' in response to news articles published about an African hunting safari that Mr. Trump's two sons made in Zimbabwe. I was disappointed, and as an avid outdoorsman, am very surprised to read about your companies short sighted and ill reasoned reaction to the news regarding the Trump men and their hunting safari.

Whether your realize it or not, regulated 'sport' hunting, whether in North America, Africa or anywhere else on this planet, is a key concept toward the long term conservation and sustainability of wild animals, both 'game' animals and all 'non-game' animals and other creatures who share their habitat. Contrary to your comments about endangered species, they are not hunted. The Trumps did shoot elephants and leopards on their safari and despite your mistaken impression that either of these may be endangered, they in fact are quite abundant and have healthy populations across many African countries. In fact, the leopard may be the most widely distributed mammal on the entire African continent. The elephant population in many African countries is healthy with strong populations, especially in Zimbabwe; and without regulated hunting AND culling, elephants would outstrip their habitat to the detriment of all wildlife.

It is easy and requires no mental exercise to believe the rhetoric of the animal rights/anti hunting businesses that thrive on creating controversy about hunting. It is an inescapable fact that much of the information they espouse is inaccurate and oftentimes, outright lies. You, sir, have fallen for their misrepresentations and have made an ill-conceived decision to abandon one of your main customer segments, namely hunters and fishermen, in the name of political correctness. The fact that you've chosen to do this without gaining a proper understanding of African wildlife management concepts indicates your decision will have far reaching impacts to your company that does a great disservice to your shareholders.

Mr. Lemonis, I call on you to publicly support regulated sport hunting wherever it occurs in the world, and to come out with a statement that retracts your ill advised and inaccurate comments about endangered species. You are flat out wrong about any of the species the Trumps hunted being endangered and you owe it to yourself and your shareholders to become better educated and representative of them, and your customers. Absent that, I will join a growing movement of your largest customer constituency, outdoorsmen, who will boycott your company from this point forward, and will work to ensure that nobody whom I know ever spends another dollar at your stores. Additionally, I'll seek out the contact information for the members of your Board of Directors to advise them of this movement and how you've damaged your company by a public stance that is based on false information.

While I doubt that you'll have any interest in responding to this email message, I'll gladly respond to any comments or questions you may have about hunting or wildlife management.

Sincerely,


I wonder if I'll receive any response beyond a 'canned' reply?

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Originally posted by DLS:
Here is my email letter to Mr. Lemonis:

Mr. Lemonis,



I'm writing to you as a result of learning that Camping World has pulled their advertising on the television show 'The Apprentice' in response to news articles published about an African hunting safari that Mr. Trump's two sons made in Zimbabwe. I was disappointed, and as an avid outdoorsman, am very surprised to read about your companies short sighted and ill reasoned reaction to the news regarding the Trump men and their hunting safari.

Whether your realize it or not, regulated 'sport' hunting, whether in North America, Africa or anywhere else on this planet, is a key concept toward the long term conservation and sustainability of wild animals, both 'game' animals and all 'non-game' animals and other creatures who share their habitat. Contrary to your comments about endangered species, they are not hunted. The Trumps did shoot elephants and leopards on their safari and despite your mistaken impression that either of these may be endangered, they in fact are quite abundant and have healthy populations across many African countries. In fact, the leopard may be the most widely distributed mammal on the entire African continent. The elephant population in many African countries is healthy with strong populations, especially in Zimbabwe; and without regulated hunting AND culling, elephants would outstrip their habitat to the detriment of all wildlife.

It is easy and requires no mental exercise to believe the rhetoric of the animal rights/anti hunting businesses that thrive on creating controversy about hunting. It is an inescapable fact that much of the information they espouse is inaccurate and oftentimes, outright lies. You, sir, have fallen for their misrepresentations and have made an ill-conceived decision to abandon one of your main customer segments, namely hunters and fishermen, in the name of political correctness. The fact that you've chosen to do this without gaining a proper understanding of African wildlife management concepts indicates your decision will have far reaching impacts to your company that does a great disservice to your shareholders.

Mr. Lemonis, I call on you to publicly support regulated sport hunting wherever it occurs in the world, and to come out with a statement that retracts your ill advised and inaccurate comments about endangered species. You are flat out wrong about any of the species the Trumps hunted being endangered and you owe it to yourself and your shareholders to become better educated and representative of them, and your customers. Absent that, I will join a growing movement of your largest customer constituency, outdoorsmen, who will boycott your company from this point forward, and will work to ensure that nobody whom I know ever spends another dollar at your stores. Additionally, I'll seek out the contact information for the members of your Board of Directors to advise them of this movement and how you've damaged your company by a public stance that is based on false information.

While I doubt that you'll have any interest in responding to this email message, I'll gladly respond to any comments or questions you may have about hunting or wildlife management.

Sincerely,


I wonder if I'll receive any response beyond a 'canned' reply?

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Dear Mr. Lemonis,
While I too believe in freedom of speech and you are certainly entitled to share your perspective, I would suggest you have your facts correct before making a disparaging comment about another’s activities. Though you may not hunt nor believe that hunting is a right, you are incorrect on the status of the game the Trumps hunted in Zimbabwe.

The facts are that the Trumps did not hunt or take any endangered species in Zimbabwe. None. Not one.

If you were told otherwise, I’ll offer a piece of advice I give to every physician I train:

“Do not believe anything anybody ever tells you. Not ever. Do your own research and make certain of the facts before you speak or do. Lives are at hand and you are not to let another’s error, no matter how innocent, become your own.”

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His response to me (after the standard fodder to which I repeated my email):

I respectfully disagree
I have pictures you do not

Marcus


What else can be said?

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Isn't camping in a RV like shooting from the truck?

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
My repeated email to Mr. Lemonis:

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Dear Mr. Lemonis,
While I too believe in freedom of speech and you are certainly entitled to share your perspective, I would suggest you have your facts correct before making a disparaging comment about another’s activities. Though you may not hunt nor believe that hunting is a right, you are incorrect on the status of the game the Trumps hunted in Zimbabwe.

The facts are that the Trumps did not hunt or take any endangered species in Zimbabwe. None. Not one.

If you were told otherwise, I’ll offer a piece of advice I give to every physician I train:

“Do not believe anything anybody ever tells you. Not ever. Do your own research and make certain of the facts before you speak or do. Lives are at hand and you are not to let another’s error, no matter how innocent, become your own.”

His response to me (after the standard fodder to which I repeated my email):

I respectfully disagree
I have pictures you do not

Marcus


What else can be said?

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CITES is the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, Elephant and Leopard are endangered

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Originally posted by Bwanamich:
Think about this.......... just as we few hunters bombard them with mail voicing our displeasure at their comments on hunting, they probably receive an equal amount of mail from anti hunters threatening boycott of their stores because they were advertizing on the Trump TV show. I think we are the minority on this matter.

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Originally posted by SkiBumplus3:

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CITES is the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, Elephant and Leopard are endangered

Sorry folks. He is technically correct. Both species are considered endangered. Kinda like grizzlies and wolves here.

Not saying I disagree with you. BUT....Public perception is that elephants and leopards are almost extinct. Ummmm. re-read the lion discussion.

Ski+3

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Originally posted by boltshooter:

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Originally posted by SkiBumplus3:

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CITES is the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species, Elephant and Leopard are endangered

Sorry folks. He is technically correct. Both species are considered endangered. Kinda like grizzlies and wolves here.

Not saying I disagree with you. BUT....Public perception is that elephants and leopards are almost extinct. Ummmm. re-read the lion discussion.

Ski+3

Question

Is the African elephant split listed in CITES, ie., listed in both Appendix I & Appendix II.
I think in Zimbabwe they are listed as Appendix II.

The way I read it Appendix I animals are near extinction.

Appendix II animals are not near extinction BUT their management needs to be critically controlled.

CITES EXPERTS PLEASE CLARIFY.