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29 February 2012, 00:13
465H&H
How old is this Shumba?
That is why I said 6+ rather than 6 years old.

465H&H
29 February 2012, 00:32
ledvm
quote:
Originally posted by 465H&H:
That is why I said 6+ rather than 6 years old.

465H&H


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29 February 2012, 10:38
Michael Robinson
All this guesstimation from photos shot in B&W with a trail camera does is show how damned hard it is.

I hate trail cameras in hunting, BTW. Might as well have your own damned satellite. Too bloody much technology, IMHO.

Does that make it harder? So what? Tough.

The answer to the "How old?" question in this case is that he's on the edge and should be left alone.

Don't shoot unless it's a sure thing should be the rule.

But money talks and guesstimates on the edge will be pushed over unless there's a high and hard price to pay.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
02 March 2012, 14:00
Safaris Botswana Bound
the best part of this debate is that readers get the chance to see the reasoning behind ageing, for to long many a hunter to africa was hoodwinked with regards to lion hunting - by this I mean age , canned not canned , what is a good trophy , size of head versus size of mane ,further sadly many outfitters got away with all kinds of rubbish because the hunter simply did not know better , this forum makes all hunters better informed
Graeme Pollock
02 March 2012, 17:12
Aaron Neilson
quote:
Originally posted by Safaris Botswana Bound:
the best part of this debate is that readers get the chance to see the reasoning behind ageing, for to long many a hunter to africa was hoodwinked with regards to lion hunting - by this I mean age , canned not canned , what is a good trophy , size of head versus size of mane ,further sadly many outfitters got away with all kinds of rubbish because the hunter simply did not know better , this forum makes all hunters better informed
Graeme Pollock


Good point Graeme, and certainly the hope for us all. The lion can have more benefit if we are all better informed, and so can the guy paying for the hunt.

Its likely gonna get alot harder for the PH to use the "bush cat" excuse Cool


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23 June 2012, 18:24
safari-lawyer
Eleven months later, Professor Labat and I have done some additional field research and we have reached some very unscientific conclusions.

More photos soon.


Will J. Parks, III
24 June 2012, 03:59
safari-lawyer
Similar angles, 11 months apart.








Will J. Parks, III
24 June 2012, 06:56
bwana cecil
Dang It Man!


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NEVER TRUST A FART!!!
Cecil Leonard
24 June 2012, 07:09
Orvar
Wow! You're killing me... Can't wait to the there! Only 4 more weeks!

Orvar
25 June 2012, 06:09
ledvm
Will,
What conclusions did you and Prof. Labat come to on maturity of this lion? His mane filled in a bit over his shoulder.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
25 June 2012, 07:00
safari-lawyer
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Will,
What conclusions did you and Prof. Labat come to on maturity of this lion? His mane filled in a bit over his shoulder.


He stopped aging on 6-7-12 at 5:03am Zim time.
Cool


Will J. Parks, III
25 June 2012, 07:22
ledvm
Cool. Now send me one of his upper PM2's (first little tooth on either side of upper jaw) to X-ray and this study will be complete! tu2


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
25 June 2012, 07:41
SBT
A morning lion - awesome!


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