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Two Rifles for Africa
19 February 2004, 14:40
CRSTwo Rifles for Africa
Hi
I know this question has been asked before. However I am looking to go to Africa in 2005/2006. I have been advised by those on this board to take two rifles. I would like to take 2 in the same caliber 375H&H, however some countries do not allow this. Rather than take 2 bolt actions what about a bolt and a Double. Your views would be greatly appreciated. Regards CRS
19 February 2004, 16:09
vapodogCRS, what are you going to be hunting?????
19 February 2004, 16:27
DB BillIf you are hunting plainsgame and perhaps leopard pick any two of the following.....270 Winchester, 270 WSM, 280 Rem, 7mm REmMag, 7mm SAUM, 308 Winchester, 30-06, 300 WinMag, 300WSM, 300 SAUM, 338 WinMag, 350 RemMag, and a 375 H&H is never out of place in Africa.
If buff is added to the mix then depending on well you can shoot it I would add the 416 RemMag.....and take along a 338WinMag.
19 February 2004, 16:49
CRSSorry guys just because I know whant I want to shoot. This will be a Buff hunt with plains game, I hope. The idea is to only use one caliber 375 H&H and have two rifles. I would be happy just to take my CZ 375 however I have been strongly advised to take two rifles. I could take a in Double 470 nitro however the cost of such a Double and ammo would just about pay for a hunt and I would have little used for a 470 except in Africa where as a double in 375 is much more flexible. Regards CRS
19 February 2004, 17:59
vapodogI'm getting ready for a buff and plains game hunt and I'm taking two rifles..... A 404 Jeffery and a .300 H&H Mag....
I truly believe a .375 RUM or .375 H&H will do the job as a one gun trip however...
19 February 2004, 18:07
Don_GI'd suggest a 375 H&H and a 300 H&H if you are a traditionalist.
The 375 would do it all, though.
Don
19 February 2004, 20:08
BwanamichIf you "have" to take 2 .375's then I suppose one is for back-up in case the other breaks??? If as you say the restricitons in the country you will hunt forbid you to bring 2 rifles of the same caliber, then go for a .375 H&H and a .375 weatherby as your 2nd? You can have use for a weatherby back home i'm sure

19 February 2004, 20:29
N E 450 No2CRS
I think it is a good idea to take 2 rifles on any hunt.
Since you already have a 375 [I do not know what other rifles you have] you need to decide if you want your second rifle to be bigger than 375 or smaller.
I am a lover of double rifles, they are my favorites. On my trip to Zim this June I am taking 2 doubles, a 450 No2 and a 9,3x74R [the 9,3 is scoped] so when I say a double as your other rifle would be a good choice you know where I am comming from.

However doubles are expensive.
If your 375 is to be your big gun then anything from 270 and up would be a good choice for your second rifle. It is hard to beat a 7MM Mag or a 300 Mag, you could have it made as a "mountain" rifle for hunts here in the states. Take heavy premium bullets to Africa. I would also take some solids for the buff in case the 375 breaks. If you do not reload
www.superiorammo.com can provide you with some solids for what ever caliber your second rifle is.
19 February 2004, 21:32
odieDoes your PH/outfitter have a spare .375 in case of problems? Regardless discuss the situation with him before making any final decisions.
Buying a new gun is not the best of options however a second "multi purpose" round gun may not hurt if you are expecting multiple trips to justify the cost. Perhaps something in the 9.3 or .404 or .416 or .458 class.
19 February 2004, 23:38
fredj338A 9.3x62 would be a good match w/ your .375. It can be used in a pinch for buff. & is a great bushveld setup. A .416/.404 would also do you well. I am going to Moz. this year & will just be taking my .404 & maybe an extra scope. This will be the 1st time hunting w/ only one rifle.

20 February 2004, 01:44
VFRI'm doing the Euro route with a 7x64 and 9.3x64 to Namibia this year. Bob
20 February 2004, 02:08
Die Ou JagterMy preference and what I will be taking to Namibia for Leopard and some plains game is my .338 and .375 H & H.
20 February 2004, 02:46
hamdeniMy choice would be 300WinMag and 375H&H.
Hamdeni
20 February 2004, 06:28
AtkinsonIf I were hunting in an area that had Lions, Buffalo and elephant, I would take two rifles that were both capable of killing any of the above...A good choice is the 338 and 375...
In your case I would take a 416, 458 Lott and a 375 or something on that order, unless recoil was a probelm...
You did not say which country your were hunting in and 2 375s may be a good option..Be fine in Tanzania.
I doubt that a second rifle is really needed as the Safari company will have rifles available I would think, mine do..but then many folks like to shoot game with their own rifles and thats a good reason for 2 rifles...You could have iron sights (peep or shallow V) to back up the scope and carry an extra scope..One gun is a lot easier to get around in airports and charter flights with for whatever that is worth.
20 February 2004, 09:45
CarmeloThe Best choice would be two Marlin 1895's perhaps the guide gun and the CB model BOTH CHAMBEREDin 45-70 using a Garrett or a comparably loaded cartridge with a good hard cast bullet like the Tru-shot say in 430 grain gc.
If you listen to some here they will have you toting .416's to go Elk hunting in Idaho.
Can't go wrong with the Grand Ole 45-70
C
20 February 2004, 10:16
ChuckWagonHay mate. If you have a problem with me why dont you act like a reasonable man and you can rant in a PM. Your angst for me and those who dissagree with you is no reason to destroy every thread on the forum. Lets take it out back where it belongs. We are both bigger men than this. I apolagize to every one If I was the cause of this continued non sense.
20 February 2004, 10:18
CarmeloFair Enough Chuck.
I am done with my rants.
-C
20 February 2004, 13:53
powWhy on God's green earth would it be made illegal to bring in two rifles of the same caliber? I know these things are often decided by those with no sense of reality, but that one just doesn't even seem remotely reasonable.
Does anyone know the reasoning behind it?
20 February 2004, 14:13
CRSHi
Thanks to Aktinson every one who responded. I am starting to look at a hunt in either MOZ or ZIM in 2005/2006. This hunt will be for Buff and plains game. I would like to take two rifles in the same caliber. I did not know South Africa was the country which does not allow 2 rifles in the same caliber. I was thinking that a double would be better in the close stuff out to 50m or so. I sold my 404 due to recoil and went to a 375 because of the availability of 350 gn Woodleighs which by the way give me inch groups at 100m at 2300 fps in my CZ 550. I would really like to only take one lot of ammo in 375 for both guns. Also a double in 375 would be ok for hunting just about anything in Australia except maybe rabbits. It would also be interesting to see if I could regulated a double to shoot Woodleigh 350's. Thanks for you input I will take the advise of those who posted and consider my options and seek advice from the PH when I book the hunt. Regards CRS