Sullivan's New DVD: Death in Full-Charge

24 November 2013, 10:31

cal pappas

QUOTE]Originally posted by Saeed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Saeed:

Instead of making it a Hollywood Showtime with him breathing heavily to re-enforce his point to make sure you don't miss the whole point of Mark Sullivan, The Bravest Great White Hunter That Ever Lived.

Saeed:
The more you show this obsession with Mark and continually call him names I'm starting to think you have a serious Napoleon complex. Let the man be. You two men are different. Mark is a self made successful man with a strong alpha male personality. I'm not making an accusation, but it seems to me you have either a fear of the man (and what he is), have a deep routed jealousy of what he is and his success, or, since you can't be what Mark is you must name call. Mark is too much of a gentleman to do this to you. Give it a rest, please. All of us here know how you feel, countless times, and it is getting tiresome.

On the same note I must state to Express Yourself that it is obvious the shit will hit the fan when you post anything of Mark in the manner you do. The first time it passed. Time again and it is discussed between many honorable members here (through PMs) that it goes beyond selling the next dvd (which is a just thing to do) but steps into the shit disturbing realm.

In closing, review my post of this past March when I reviewed Mark's films. He really does not have that many charges in 24 years a PH. What he has shown stirs emotion to exaggerative levels. Also, review my notes and you will see he does not kill animals for his clients. He shoots with the client when the animal is running away. There is never an instance when the animal was wounded on purpose--that is emotionally generated and not true.
We are all in this boat together and PETA wants us all to sink.
Cheers,
Cal

24 November 2013, 10:44

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by fujotupu:
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
Tell me, honored mates: is dangerous game really dangerous when shot from a far enough distance where danger is not present?
If everyone shot their buff-lion-leopard-hippo-elephant at 1-2-300 yards is it really dangerous game hunting?
I seek your knowledge as I don't have enough experience myself.
Just wonderin'.
Cal

The animals that fall within this category are branded as Dangerous Game simply due to their known capability of reacting in a manner that may have fatal consequences if provoked.

Not everyone shoots or is capable of shooting DG over long distances - those who do, most likely do so out of necessity (no affordable cover to close the distance is the main reason that comes to mind). If there is a wounding, you might even be LUCKY to get a charge as well!

I have seen so many balls ups created at 50 yds so distance is really immaterial.

Absolutely correct.

And, I have said it before, I feel more in danger driving in a major city than I have ever felt any danger in the bush.

But, we still have those who like to gloat about shooting dangerous game, and how they managed to survive them.

Unless there is some major screw ups, there absolutely nothing dangerous in hunting dangerous game.

All one has to do is keep his wits about him, and the likelihood of anything going wrong is drastically reduced.

I don't go hunting to expose myself or any of my party to unnecessary dangers.

Hunting is supposed to be an enjoyable past time.

I was reading about some kids in Mexico, who apparently jump from one train onto another one going in the opposite direction.

THAT is what I call asking for it.

24 November 2013, 11:20

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
Tell me, honored mates: is dangerous game really dangerous when shot from a far enough distance where danger is not present?
If everyone shot their buff-lion-leopard-hippo-elephant at 1-2-300 yards is it really dangerous game hunting?
I seek your knowledge as I don't have enough experience myself.
Just wonderin'.
Cal

There are those who are very capable at shooting DG at distances exceeding 200 yards and have the equipment to do it when the rest is good.

However it is my experience that there is more margin for error and increases the probability of wounding. Every follow up is potentially dangerous.

Those who hunt with doubles or open sights need to get in close and this can also be tricky and it can be other animals in the herd or pride that maybe problematic. However I find that the closer shots tend to be more accurate. Hence the use of blinds for Lion and Leopard.

24 November 2013, 18:39

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:

Saeed:
The more you show this obsession with Mark and continually call him names I'm starting to think you have a serious Napoleon complex. Let the man be. You two men are different. Mark is a self made successful man with a strong alpha male personality. I'm not making an accusation, but it seems to me you have either a fear of the man (and what he is), have a deep routed jealousy of what he is and his success, or, since you can't be what Mark is you must name call. Mark is too much of a gentleman to do this to you. Give it a rest, please. All of us here know how you feel, countless times, and it is getting tiresome.

On the same note I must state to Express Yourself that it is obvious the shit will hit the fan when you post anything of Mark in the manner you do. The first time it passed. Time again and it is discussed between many honorable members here (through PMs) that it goes beyond selling the next dvd (which is a just thing to do) but steps into the shit disturbing realm.

In closing, review my post of this past March when I reviewed Mark's films. He really does not have that many charges in 24 years a PH. What he has shown stirs emotion to exaggerative levels. Also, review my notes and you will see he does not kill animals for his clients. He shoots with the client when the animal is running away. There is never an instance when the animal was wounded on purpose--that is emotionally generated and not true.
We are all in this boat together and PETA wants us all to sink.
Cheers,
Cal

I think bashing Mark has become too much of a sort of armchair non-dangerous game hunting event or non-contact sport for it to go away any time soon. For some it is a sport or event they find simply too enticing to resist . . . particularly the non-contact nature of the sport. Best of all, it is a sport that can be played with only one team on the field. For example, I notice that one poster even made the asinine and absurd statement that if Mark ever shot any of his trophies, he would shoot Mark. The statement is almost comical given that it comes from a braggart that has fantasies regarding his own background and capabilities. So I see little chance that the vitriol is likely to go away anytime soon. It is too easy to engage in the sport particularly for many who, among their other failings in life, happen to be sycophants too.

24 November 2013, 20:36

cal pappas

Mike:
It is nice to hear logic speak. If the detractors spoke logic and with common sense and let their feelings be known and moved on it would be perfectly understandable. Yes, I picked up on ISS's comment. If that come to fruition, we would be reading the details of of the slow death and life, fluids, etc., leaving the body by his hand.
I hope to meet you in person someday. Dallas?
Cheers, mate.
Cal
PS. As a second thought, will SCI ever give awards to the bashing--circle, inner circle, slam, etc., and post criteria as to what one has to write to get the award and one's name in the record book. The record book could include the most bashes, the most serious departures from the truth (such as Saeed's wounding on purpose), etc. Another way for SCI to generate income and a defined reason and excuse to make up more accusations.

24 November 2013, 20:44

MJines

Yes, I will be in Dallas. Look forward to catching up then. Hard to believe that DSC is just a few weeks away now.

24 November 2013, 21:12

Russ B

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Todd,

Alan has been on quite a few so called "backup hunts".

Many of them did not start withy him as the PH.

He went to help clear the screw ups of others.

Still, if we take Alan, plus his father, plus about dozen other PHs I have been with, and those they know as PHs, and combine them all.

I guarantee you all of them combined would never have had even a fraction of Mark Sullivan's charges.

Do any of the other PHs go out of their way to shoot their clients animal, and brag about it on camera, making sure the client remains anonymous in the background?

Do you enjoy having your animal killed by your PH?

If so, why are you not hunting with Mark Sullivan then?

Saeed,
It's all about hunting style. Hunting Buffalo at longer distances, say 60-100 yards will just not provoke as many charges as Buffalo that the first shot is taken within the Buffalo's "personal space."

It's two completely different styles of hunting. I don't see anyone here disparaging you or anyone else here who hunts Buffalo at longer than "personal space" distances. To each his own.

Mark loves the intimacy of close up hunting, and an immediate follow up. Closing in on the wounded Buffalo from the front. Thats all there is to it.

I've never hunted with Mark but will in 2015. Really looking froward to him shooting all my animals

Hi Steve

With all respect due to you, this sort of behaviour from Mark on Dangerous Game is hardly a hunting style but more geographical location and terrain type than anything else.

The most fatalities in recent years from hunting dangerous game have occurred in 2 areas namely The Zambezi Valley and Masailand. There is a reason for that, THICK BUSH. Zambezi Valley Jesse Bush is notorious and visibility is often less than 10 yards so it is prudent to exercise caution. Likewise Masailand is Hook Thorn Acacia also with limited visibility.

Mark has predominantly hunted in The Selous, Moyowosi and some areas in Central Tanzania where visibility is not always but generally speaking better than the previous areas I have mentioned.

If you can see then it makes it a whole lot easier to approach Buffalo head on. Most people who have been on safari when a fatal charge has occurred will tell you that the Buffalo they were following suddenly appeared within 10 yards with no warning and no sight of him until he was already coming full steam.

I think that the type of approach that is used is dependant on the type of terrain and not really a case of one person having the ability to get closer to dangerous game than another.

That being said it is dangerous game and a prudent approach is always required.

24 November 2013, 21:18

Saeed

There are some thickets in the Selous and Moyowosi.

Mark Sullivan would never dare go after a wounded buffalo in there.

He likes to shoot them like the proverbial "fish in a barrel"!

24 November 2013, 22:15

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
QUOTE]Originally posted by Saeed:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Saeed:

Instead of making it a Hollywood Showtime with him breathing heavily to re-enforce his point to make sure you don't miss the whole point of Mark Sullivan, The Bravest Great White Hunter That Ever Lived.

Saeed:
The more you show this obsession with Mark and continually call him names I'm starting to think you have a serious Napoleon complex. Let the man be. You two men are different. Mark is a self made successful man with a strong alpha male personality. I'm not making an accusation, but it seems to me you have either a fear of the man (and what he is), have a deep routed jealousy of what he is and his success, or, since you can't be what Mark is you must name call. Mark is too much of a gentleman to do this to you. Give it a rest, please. All of us here know how you feel, countless times, and it is getting tiresome.

On the same note I must state to Express Yourself that it is obvious the shit will hit the fan when you post anything of Mark in the manner you do. The first time it passed. Time again and it is discussed between many honorable members here (through PMs) that it goes beyond selling the next dvd (which is a just thing to do) but steps into the shit disturbing realm.

In closing, review my post of this past March when I reviewed Mark's films. He really does not have that many charges in 24 years a PH. What he has shown stirs emotion to exaggerative levels. Also, review my notes and you will see he does not kill animals for his clients. He shoots with the client when the animal is running away. There is never an instance when the animal was wounded on purpose--that is emotionally generated and not true.
We are all in this boat together and PETA wants us all to sink.
Cheers,
Cal

Spot on Cal and Jines, on all points!

A little critical thinking outside the fog of jealousy and zealotry goes a long way to refute the hyperbole of a few.

24 November 2013, 22:45

ExpressYourself

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
There are some thickets in the Selous and Moyowosi.

Mark Sullivan would never dare go after a wounded buffalo in there.

He likes to shoot them like the proverbial "fish in a barrel"!

As I have mentioned before, I have personally been in the thickest of bush with Mark hunting and also tracking wounded buffalo. Your assumption is incorrect and untrue Saeed as is this assumption by RussB.

Shawn

25 November 2013, 01:03

Steve Ahrenberg

quote:
Originally posted by Russ B:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Todd,

Alan has been on quite a few so called "backup hunts".

Many of them did not start withy him as the PH.

He went to help clear the screw ups of others.

Still, if we take Alan, plus his father, plus about dozen other PHs I have been with, and those they know as PHs, and combine them all.

I guarantee you all of them combined would never have had even a fraction of Mark Sullivan's charges.

Do any of the other PHs go out of their way to shoot their clients animal, and brag about it on camera, making sure the client remains anonymous in the background?

Do you enjoy having your animal killed by your PH?

If so, why are you not hunting with Mark Sullivan then?

Saeed,
It's all about hunting style. Hunting Buffalo at longer distances, say 60-100 yards will just not provoke as many charges as Buffalo that the first shot is taken within the Buffalo's "personal space."

It's two completely different styles of hunting. I don't see anyone here disparaging you or anyone else here who hunts Buffalo at longer than "personal space" distances. To each his own.

Mark loves the intimacy of close up hunting, and an immediate follow up. Closing in on the wounded Buffalo from the front. Thats all there is to it.

I've never hunted with Mark but will in 2015. Really looking froward to him shooting all my animals

Hi Steve

With all respect due to you, this sort of behaviour from Mark on Dangerous Game is hardly a hunting style but more geographical location and terrain type than anything else.

The most fatalities in recent years from hunting dangerous game have occurred in 2 areas namely The Zambezi Valley and Masailand. There is a reason for that, THICK BUSH. Zambezi Valley Jesse Bush is notorious and visibility is often less than 10 yards so it is prudent to exercise caution. Likewise Masailand is Hook Thorn Acacia also with limited visibility.

Mark has predominantly hunted in The Selous, Moyowosi and some areas in Central Tanzania where visibility is not always but generally speaking better than the previous areas I have mentioned.

If you can see then it makes it a whole lot easier to approach Buffalo head on. Most people who have been on safari when a fatal charge has occurred will tell you that the Buffalo they were following suddenly appeared within 10 yards with no warning and no sight of him until he was already coming full steam.

I think that the type of approach that is used is dependant on the type of terrain and not really a case of one person having the ability to get closer to dangerous game than another.

That being said it is dangerous game and a prudent approach is always required.

Hi Russ, I always cringe when somebody starts a response with "All due respect" what follows usually accounts for the disclaimer up front.

I will disagree, Mark has been making these video's regardless the cover, regardless the GMA he's in.

I believe choosing between the two types of Buffalo hunting is why Mark gets these charges (other than that's what he's looking for) offensive and defensive. Sullivan's way is obviously an offensive style, forcing things to occur by eliminating options from the Buffalo's retreat. Either run... or charge. Period.

I don't need a Professional Hunters license to figure that one out.

Steve

25 November 2013, 08:21

Saeed

Got an email asking the following.

"I wonder if anyone is going to tell us about when MS hunted on Pano's concession."

25 November 2013, 08:57

ExpressYourself

Perhaps the mystery person that has all the factual details and knowledge of the event should start a thread about it. I am sure some on AR would enjoy the exchange that would ensue. Maybe we can also start a forum while we are at it called ARs Dirty Laundry. Then we can have mystery people airing out all kinds of dirty laundry real and fabricated! Most importantly it could require no first-hand information to really keep topics on track.

We can start with the .22 in the nuts of buffalo and work our way through back-up shooters off-camera, non-disclosure forms, surreptitious contracts, won’t go into the thick stuff, shoots before clients, tells clients to intentionally wound game, shoots all of his clients game, etc. I bet it might be great fun for some. I think I will pass on that thread.

Shawn

25 November 2013, 09:16

fujotupu

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Got an email asking the following.

"I wonder if anyone is going to tell us about when MS hunted on Pano's concession."

Naughty ! ..... now that is ..

25 November 2013, 09:17

ExpressYourself

Gee I wonder who might send an email such as that....Hmmmmm.

25 November 2013, 09:27

fujotupu

Yeah, I wonder ..... Hmmmmmm

25 November 2013, 10:50

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
Perhaps the mystery person that has all the factual details and knowledge of the event should start a thread about it. I am sure some on AR would enjoy the exchange that would ensue. Maybe we can also start a forum while we are at it called ARs Dirty Laundry. Then we can have mystery people airing out all kinds of dirty laundry real and fabricated! Most importantly it could require no first-hand information to really keep topics on track.

We can start with the .22 in the nuts of buffalo and work our way through back-up shooters off-camera, non-disclosure forms, surreptitious contracts, won’t go into the thick stuff, shoots before clients, tells clients to intentionally wound game, shoots all of his clients game, etc. I bet it might be great fun for some. I think I will pass on that thread.

Shawn

Thank you Shawn, keep them coming

25 November 2013, 11:41

Ganyana

Faced two charges by buff between 1987 and this year- both as a parks officer on the erradication culls and as a PH.

In 1985 and '86 when I was still 'learning' I faced 6 close range charges from Buff.

I would say getting charged is easy...not getting charged takes some skill - especially with wounded game.

25 November 2013, 11:59

fujotupu

quote:
I would say getting charged is easy...not getting charged takes some skill - especially with wounded game.

With that said, there must be a whole lot more skilled PHs out there.... and some not so

25 November 2013, 12:07

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Ganyana:
Faced two charges by buff between 1987 and this year- both as a parks officer on the erradication culls and as a PH.

In 1985 and '86 when I was still 'learning' I faced 6 close range charges from Buff.

I would say getting charged is easy...not getting charged takes some skill - especially with wounded game.

This is it in a nutshell!

I have said before, Mark Sullivan cannot be called a professional hunter by any stretch of the imagination.

And by his own admission, the worst shot are the one who gravitate to him as clients, so he can shoot their game animals and brag about it.

25 November 2013, 13:08

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
Gee I wonder who might send an email such as that....Hmmmmm.

Shawn,

The same person sent this too:

"With friends like this, who needs enemies"

25 November 2013, 15:38

Bockhunter

quote:
I have said before, Mark Sullivan cannot be called a professional hunter by any stretch of the imagination.

Hi Saaed,

sorry, but this is absolutly BS.

He -as you- has his own style and you can like it or not.

Since more than 30 year MS guids clints to hunts. In the first years in the USA and in the northern regions, some years later in Afrika, mostly Tansania.

He has allway "attched himself to his clints", all of them are happy and all got their adventure, throphies, pp.
Ask them (I think you have done this, but you dont get your wished negative result, so you dont post that here...) and if they are happy, it is okay.

I had spoken to more than five of them and they spoke about MS and his adventure only in the best, por-activ words.

Best wishes.

25 November 2013, 15:42

Bockhunter

quote:
so he can shoot their game animals and brag about it

Hi Saaed,

please look at the "Statistik of Cal P.".
He has written there, after he looked all of the films of MS, that this is not true.

Check it if you want.
So you can see it for your own.

And then:
Look to the Videos of other famous PHs.
Like A. D., he has shoot on every hunt -in one DVD- of the clints game.

Best wishes.

25 November 2013, 15:45

Bockhunter

quote:
"With friends like this, who needs enemies"

Hi Saeed,

I have meet MS in the USA, in Germany, pp.
We went out for shooting, lunch and hunting (not in Afrika).

I can speak only in the best way about him. As a hunter, gun fan, human, gentleman and as many of you US-Boys says: A true american.

I will call him: A friend.
And Im proud of this.

Best wishes.

25 November 2013, 21:38

cal pappas

quote:
Originally posted by Bockhunter:
quote:
so he can shoot their game animals and brag about it

Hi Saaed,

please look at the "Statistik of Cal P.".
He has written there, after he looked all of the films of MS, that this is not true.

Check it if you want.
So you can see it for your own.

And then:
Look to the Videos of other famous PHs.
Like A. D., he has shoot on every hunt -in one DVD- of the clints game.

Best wishes.

Bockhunter:
Thanks for the words about a true gentleman Mark is. Also understand Saeed as a Napoleon complex or a small man's complex. Because he has money he can buy most anything he wants except the type of man Mark is--self made, alpha male, etc.. There is a parallel here, too. Mark is fearless and therefore not afraid of putting his hunts out for all to see. He hunts up close and personal. Saeed, on the either hand, shoots his game from a safe distance and insults from the safety of the internet screen. If he didn't like what Mark does that is fine. Since he goes on and on with it he has lost the respect of many true men here. Bottom line: he is a little man who wants to be a big man. You should see the PMs that circulate about Saeed. Trust me, I', correct on this.
Let the games begin.
Cal

25 November 2013, 22:47

Bockhunter

Hi Cal,

thank you for your post.

I see this very easy:
We have her two different man, each witch his own hunting style.
"Close up" vs. "safe distance".
Thats all.

Each has his fans, his rumors, etc.
Thats all too.

All that stuff like: "MS shoots rhinos in the balls with a .22" or "Saaed has a little men" is untrue.
And the most people knows that here.

I think then we meet Saaed in person, even then MS is there too, it will be an great dialog, an big meeting, not an hard discussion.

Saaed takes it personal with MS, for whatever reaons..., I dont know... And I dont care...

I think Saaed is an clever man too.
I had read some weeks before his "life report" and it was great fun.. He hade great adventuere there, other people have great adventures with MS.

Best wishes.

BH

P.S.:
In one month we will have christmas, so please "be friendly".
:-)

25 November 2013, 23:11

fairgame

Cal,

Word according to Bockhunter who cannot even spell the host's name correctly. Very astute fellow that?

Your assumptions are made about men that you have never hunted with? One being a PH/film star and the other effectively a client. I have watched films made by both characters and (without blowing smoke up Saeed's arse) his are the only ones that I still have on my shelf.

You want dangerous and in your face then most PH's I know will provide you that with or without camera. Saeed's point is that this is not really what our job is about and we tend to provide the full safari experience without putting anybody in harms way.

Shit I wished I had a cameraman behind me when Thor and I took on the Nyimba man eaters. I could/would have been an overnight celebrity and would had the pleasure and finances to smoke good cigars with you all.

25 November 2013, 23:49

Bakes

quote:
self made, alpha male, etc..

Alpha male

Mate what is an Alpha Male, you keep banging on about this, what a load of Shite. Seems like you have a little man crush on MS.

quote:
Mark is fearless and therefore not afraid of putting his hunts out for all to see.

Correct me if I'm wrong....they aren't his hunts are they? They are his clients?

26 November 2013, 01:26

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by Bakes:
quote:
self made, alpha male, etc..

Alpha male Mate what is an Alpha Male, you keep banging on about this, what a load of Shite. Seems like you have a little man crush on MS.

OK, I'll play. Here you go:

Alpha Male:

Not an Alpha Male:

Man crush indeed. This coming from a guy who was just taken on safari to Tanzania by Saeed.

26 November 2013, 01:35

ExpressYourself

26 November 2013, 01:51

PSmith

Good to see a photo of Jack Lambert; got one of Otis Sistrunk from the Univ. of Mars??

And that little girl's hair is too short.

26 November 2013, 01:53

Steve Ahrenberg

Todd,
Thanks for that... That's some funny shite right there!!!!

Looks like a male Miley Cirus. (light on the male part)

26 November 2013, 04:06

bwana cecil

He definitely looks like a twinky. But he has made more money & more little teenie bopper girls wet their pants than most of us on this site ever thought of.

26 November 2013, 04:09

jdollar

that's a male of the species? i thought it was a teenage girl at first glance. come on, guys- lighten up, it's the holiday season!

26 November 2013, 05:19

Bakes

Yes Todd taken on safari and I'm very greatfull. Saeed is a generous fella and a nice bloke. The only condition he gave me was to have a good time and I did thanks very much. Just because he invited me along with him doesn't mean I have to jump to his defence like the MS fan club does. He can and does look after himself quite well.
And very nice pictures BTW. Show me an "Alpha Male" and I'll show you a loud mouth attention seeking whore bordering on being a bully. If you haven't guessed I don't go into the alpha male bull shit. Some insecure people do however

26 November 2013, 05:26

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Bakes:
Just because he invited me along with him doesn't mean I have to jump to his defence like the MS fan club does.

. . . doesn't mean that you have to, just that you chose to.

Hey, there are worse things to be in life than a sycophant.

26 November 2013, 05:37

bwana cecil

Alright children!
Everyone go to your rooms & write 100 times:
"I will play nice with others."
Now go on & get started & no dessert for the next week either.

26 November 2013, 05:40

Bakes

I don't know how you can think my original post having a shot at the "alpha male" worship can be linked to Saeed in anyway

26 November 2013, 05:40

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by bwana cecil:
Alright children!
Everyone go to your rooms & write 100 times:
"I will play nice with others."
Now go on & get started & no desert for the next week either.

Dessert? No desert will be tough for Saeed unless he is traveling.

26 November 2013, 05:42

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by Bakes:

quote:
Originally posted by Cal pappas
the type of man Mark is -- self made, alpha male, etc..

Alpha male Mate what is an Alpha Male, you keep banging on about this, what a load of Shite. Seems like you have a little man crush on MS.

Typical Alpha Males include;.. Ernest Hemingway, John 'Pondoro' Taylor and the famous 'Marlboro man'.

Hemingway was trained to overcompensate by his father, because his mother once used to dress Ernest in girls clothing and call him Ernestine
treating him like he was her little daughter instead of son....

'Great White Hunter' Pondoro Taylor, was apparently as 'camp' as a row of Safari tents......

Tough macho 'Marlboro Man' [Christian Haren] was openly gay and a huge gay icon, cause of his 'male butchness', died of HIV-AIDS.