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Couple questions abour Buff hunts in Zim
28 January 2005, 19:32
SnoogansCouple questions abour Buff hunts in Zim
My father is trying to put together his first Buff hunt for 2007. In speaking with a few agents, outfitters, and references he came across a couple of things that he did not get clarified.
1) A couple people have mentioned to try to avoid Campfire Camps in Zim? What is a campfire camp? Is it a gov't program of some sort? A fly-by nite type outfitter?
2) Others have mentioned to avoid outfitters with Government Concessions. Something about the US not supposed to be doing biz with the Zim govt...and doing biz with outfitters having govt concessions is like doing biz with the Zim govt...illegal? Any truth to this govt concessions deal?
3) Anything else he should be keeping an eye out for? If it helps, he would IDEALLY like to find a 7 day buff hunt, good shot at 40", and budget at $10k.
Thanks for any help you can offer!
28 January 2005, 20:32
Will1) Someone is yanking your chain. Nothing wrong with Campfire areas.
2)Ditto. (They are the best places).
3) You should be able to get a 10-day hunt for that, and may need it. 40"ers don't grow on trees!
Call or e-mail HHK.
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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
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and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
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“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.
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28 January 2005, 20:44
GanyanaLiving here and being involved with the quota setting I think I can give you some pointers.
1) CAMPFIRE - Communal Areas Management Plan For Indigenous REsources. IE Hunting on Tribal Land where the communities get the meat and a share (usually arround 45%) of the money you pay for a safari.
Some of the CAMFIRE concessions have been heavily overshot. A combination of a government (national Parks) policy of setting quite libberal quotas so that there was enough money to encourage the community to conserve their wildlife and rampant poaching (ie the community not conserving their wildlife!) That said, the best trophies to come out of Zim are frequently from Communal areas.
Try Bill Bedfords Ingwe Safaris (ingwew@mweb.co.zw or phone 263-4-860290) or Swainsons safaris (I think swainsons@mweb.co.zw)
2) Not all of the "government Concessions are in the hands of people on the US Banned list, or even have partneres on the US Banned list! For a good hunt with few disapointments try HHK (hhk@mweb.co.zw). or Swainsons
If you are dead set against that try one of the operators in the Save conservancy like Shangan Hunters or Roger Whittal or couple of others. Or ask Bill bedfors (Ingwe) for a hunt on his ranch adjacent to Hwange National Park
Or - consult a reputable agent like Ann on this forum.
If you want emails for the save lads PM me and when I get i9nto town I'll look them up and answer
28 January 2005, 21:31
WillOkay, let's get serious.
HHK:
During Reno,
Graham Himgston 469-835-7960
If you can't get ahold of Graham, call Brent Hein (469-835-79610). One of my favorite PH's.
Andy Hunter, also at Reno. He can get you a buff somewhere. Til Feb 6: 713-569-1675
Also Peter Barnard is at Reno, booth 3408, not that that helps, since I don't have a phone number. A nice guy. He may be checking his e-mail.
Pete Barnard
Bvekenya Safaris
P.O.BOX WGT 805
Harare
Zimbabwe
Tel/fax-263-4-335540
www.bvekenyasafaris.comAlso Buzz Charlton. buzz@cmsafaris.com Maybe someone has a US phone number. He may be looking at his e-mail, though.
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Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
---------------------------------------
and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________
"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.
red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________
If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.
28 January 2005, 22:35
Gringo CazadorAndy Hunter emailed me the other day and said he was booked for 05. I havent met him but the communications I've had with him he seems staight up.
Billy,
High in the shoulder
(we band of bubbas)