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19 May 2002, 06:55
Tanoose
Model 70 Safari Express
Looking at the 2002 catalog they list the weight as 8-8 1/2 pounds . Do any of you guys have this rifle in 416 rem. mag, can you tell me what the rifle weights. Thanks Tanoose
19 May 2002, 07:19
<Don G>
Mine weighs 10.2 lbs with a slightly heavier profile Cutrifle barrel, steel-bedded action and a 1.75-6-VXIII scope on QRW mounts.

Mine was about 9 lbs from the factory, it has a nice dense walnut factory stock that probably added a very worthwhile half-pound.

Don

19 May 2002, 07:29
RIP
I weighed my straight out of the box Win. M70 Classic Safari Express 416 Rem.Mag (walnut and blue of course): 9 pounds and one ounce on certified commercial scales.

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RAB

19 May 2002, 09:02
Tanoose
Thanks guys i was hoping for 9 pounds out of the box.
19 May 2002, 10:10
Will
Just bought two. They both weighed 9.1 lbs.

I've got one down to 8.3 lbs with a different stock, and shooting for 8 lbs. with the other one.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited 05-19-2002).]

19 May 2002, 16:44
<Don Martin>
Glad to see continued interest in this rifle make and caliber.

It's my next rifle purchase and it's always reassuring to see others thinking along the same lines.

Don Martin.

19 May 2002, 16:59
RIP
Will,
A pair of 416 Rem. M70's does make sense. What sort of stocks are you trying on them? Maybe you will be able to get one down to 7 pounds like Ross Seyfried.

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RAB

19 May 2002, 19:03
HenryC470
Some people have been having problems with the new M70's:

http://www.serveroptions.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001278.html

I am leaning toward asking U.S.R.A.C. for a refund, having received two defective rifles in a row.

H. C.

20 May 2002, 09:30
Will
The new Mod. 70's have plenty of problems. Apparently they mount the open sights before they screw the barrel to the action and the barrel is threaded just a tad too much so the sights wind up canted to the left.

Whatever they do, both the front and rear sights are off top dead center. So for one of them, a new front sight (the NECG front sight with adjustable height bead) has been ordered from Brownells. The rear sight may wind up being a ghost ring.

The other rifle will wear a scope and I will live with the goofy sights.

The new Mod. 70's have two things going for them. They are accurate out of the box, and the action is relatively light weight. As a non-gunsmith type, the switch to a fiberglass stock lightens them up about 0.8 pounds.

If I thought the Mod. 70/416 Rem was a dream true, rather than just more rifles to play with, I would probabaly start with the action and get the barrel contour to match whatever the desired final rifle weight. But that is a lot more money.

So we'll see how they do when out hunting.

Will


20 May 2002, 03:53
<allen day>
Unfortunately, what Will says can be all too true these days.

The basic concept of the current Model 70 package in .416 Remington is very sound: The stock is designed well, the barrel length and contour is appropriate to the caliber, and of course the proven design features of the Model 70 action lend themselves very well to dangerous game hunting.

The trouble is, you don't know exactly what you're going to be presented with when you open the box. It's sort of a game of "pot luck", as evidently USRA's quality control isn't exactly what it used to be. You might end up with a real gem of a rifle that will delight you in every way, or else you might end up with a turkey that you'll either have to send back or (better still, I think) take to a good gunsmith and have corrected.

On of my friends bought on of these Model 70s when they first came out in .416 Remington. He had a good local riflesmith fine tune it, and he ended up with a very reliable and accurate rifle.

My own .416 Remington is also based on a current Model 70 action (it was a .30-06 originally), but the only thing that's stock about the rifle is the receiver, trigger group, striker assembly, and bolt body, but even these have been totally reworked. It's very accurate and reliable, and one of my most prized hunting rifles.

I like the .416 Remington cartridge very much. It's a nicely balanced proposition, inherently accurate, and comparatively easy shoot for the power you're getting.

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