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Non Trophy Ele Available in ZIM - Buzz Charlton / Omay
25 February 2006, 18:20
Bill CNon Trophy Ele Available in ZIM - Buzz Charlton / Omay
Buzz asked me to post this for him. I am only passing this along to AR members, I am not booking or personally getting anything out of it. There is ONE for sure.
I'm sure Kathi Klimes could get the flights scheduled no problem, noting fairs are cheaper now then peak-season and at the old rates if booked before end of March. Expect $1250 Atlanta-Joburg then $200 to Harare (+tax). $400 to drive to/from Harare-Omay, or $1500 charter both ways.
Expect a "traditional" communal lands problem animal type of hunt, tracking elephant bulls raiding crops, and shooting a non-trophy (non-export) bull. Mid-May is the latest that the hunt would be possible.
Numerous others on the forum have hunted Omay, do a KEYWORD SEARCH on the forum using "Omay" and you will get tons of hits. Omay is on the south shore of Lake Kariba bordering Matusadona National Park. HHK's map:
http://www.hhksafaris.com/hunting/omay-info-c.htmlBuzz is under a deadline and needs to sell in the next few days. Per Buzz:
[Non-Trophy] ELE BULL - OMAY
7 DAYS @US$857/DAY TOTAL US$5999
[Kill] FEE US $2500
HUNTED DURING DAY LIGHT HOURS
Buzz's Email:
buzz@cmsafaris.com - COPY (cc) this address as Buzz will be traveling:
buzzcharlton@hotmail.comAnd I'm sure Buzz will throw in an instructional DVD at no charge!

26 February 2006, 18:47
GDOGBill,
I met Retreever on a plane back from Dallas. He mentioned you're in the computer biz. If you wouldn't mind talking, send me a PM to discuss the ELE/Safari and IT stuff.
27 February 2006, 05:22
bwanamrmHell of a deal for a nonexportable PAC bull hunt!
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28 February 2006, 17:47
Bill CBTT, still available. Bill
Sounds fantastic. Now I'm upset about taking my family to the carribean on vacation.
...Is that wrong ?
01 March 2006, 04:37
DPhillipsThis is probably a very silly question, but how come there is a trophy fee for a PAC (non-exportable) hunt?
There is also a triphy fee for tuskless elephants which can't be imported to the US. The reason there is a trophy fee is that there is a demand for the experience on a budget. The trophy fees and daily rate for non export elephants is significantly lower than that for the exportable "trophy" bulls.
Non export elephants fall outside the CITIES quota.
Ivory would be nice, so would some of the hide, but the experience can't be beat. The real trophies are your memories anyway. Get the experience at a discount, but not free since the demand is there.
JPK

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01 March 2006, 20:12
GanyanaAlso, no visitor to Zimbabwe may hunt anything without paying for it. Donations require special permission. Parks set the legal minimums that the Council may charge and the operator who has the concession will want to make enough to cover the paperwork, hassel etc.
01 March 2006, 20:48
Bill CThanks Ganyana for the info. Also, as I understand it - and this is just my understanding as a visiting hunter not in the business - these hunts are not officially called "PAC" hunts anymore, and this term should not be used as PAC can only be shot by Parks or Zim citizens w/permission of Council and Parks (such as an appy-PH getting experience). With these legit "Non-Trophy" hunts, there is a set minimum (as set and overseen by National Parks) which is a significant portion of the "trophy fee" that must be paid to the Tribal Council by the operator (HHK for example), and of course the meat goes to the Council (villages) too. This is all good, and they will be problem animals. I guess instead of "trophy fee" it should be called a "kill fee" or something, good point, but generic terms die slowly.
01 March 2006, 21:24
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by DPhillips:
This is probably a very silly question, but how come there is a trophy fee for a PAC (non-exportable) hunt?
Because you get to take trophy photos.

02 March 2006, 05:18
DPhillipsThanks guys.
02 March 2006, 11:15
JBrownIt is nice to run my hand over the tusks of my elephant from time to time and admire the unique feel of ivory. But in the end the real trophies are the memories.
Jason
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