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Your next double for africa.
13 January 2005, 20:53
ErikDYour next double for africa.
I bought a Norwegian hunting mag today, and had a good laugh when I read an article about Blasers special made R93 Double!
Yes, a R93 (straight pull bolt action) Double! It looks kind of like that abomination made by Fuchs. But, it has Blasers cocking system for each barrel! 2 cockers/safetys!
It's called the "Hamed" after the man who they made it for in the first place; Sheik Hamed Bin Zayed Al-Nahyan, the finance miinister of Abu-Dhabi who has several specially made Blasers.
It made only to order at the moment, but apparently they will be making a small production run in the near future...
So run and order yours now! And sell that silly, old fashioned double you already have. I'll be a nice guy, and take the old fashioned one off your hands cheap!
13 January 2005, 21:00
mhoI'll be darned! Do you have to cock each barrel individually?? Sure looks that way with the double cocking levers.
- mike
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13 January 2005, 21:16
Heritage ArmsWOW! I wonder how the barrels lock up into the recievers? I'll bet it shoots very well
Aleko
Hits count, misses don't
13 January 2005, 21:30
BFDI can't remember how many years ago I saw this done by Fred Wells. I saw one by a different company on the net a few years ago and the asking price was 65,000.
13 January 2005, 21:33
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by Heritage Arms:
WOW! I'll bet it shoots very well
Aleko
I'll bet it is the ugliest contraption that I've ever seen! Not one pushfeed, but a double push feed, that must be cocked manually!
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13 January 2005, 21:45
500grainsLet's see what this rifle offers:
1. Dual push feed system.
2. Slowest cocking system known to mankind. Times 2.
3. Luxurious plastic internals.
13 January 2005, 22:37
SpringAfter you shoot the two bullets in the barrels, will it simultaneously reload two new bullets with one cocking action?
13 January 2005, 22:37
ErikDquote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
Let's see what this rifle offers:
1. Dual push feed system.
2. Slowest cocking system known to mankind. Times 2.
3. Luxurious plastic internals.
Yes, all those great things that every serious DG hunter is looking for combined into one piece of $hit.
I guess Sheik Hamed has more money than taste (and brains?).
Think I'll stick to the old fashioned stuff.
13 January 2005, 22:39
butchlocand i thought the r93 was ugly and useless. i'll bet you could drive in really big fenceposts with this thing
13 January 2005, 23:09
vapodogWill it be chambered in .416 remington?.....folks in Kansas will want to know.
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13 January 2005, 23:32
foxfireIf this thing has an accidental discharge imagine both barrels will go off.
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14 January 2005, 02:03
<JOHAN>quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
Let's see what this rifle offers:
1. Dual push feed system.
2. Slowest cocking system known to mankind. Times 2.
3. Luxurious plastic internals.
The only feature they missed is electronic trigger system a'la extron
Cheers
/ JOHAN
14 January 2005, 03:06
MikelravyQ: What is more rediculous and overpriced than a Blaser
A:Two of them welded together.
Couldn't hardly be done any other way.
14 January 2005, 03:27
Michael RobinsonWhat's next, an R93 drilling?
I don't blame blame Blaser for building it, though--the sheik obviously paid for it and I can't imagine how much!
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
14 January 2005, 16:25
kokdyerI would hardly call Meister Fuch's rifle a contraption. Fuchs didn't design the rifle, a Hungarian-Canuck did.
Harold Wolf wrote a pretty glowing report of the rifle. I don't see me owning one, cost not withstanding, but I had thought of a similar idea before it came out about 15 years ago.
Mine worked on a rachet system. Meister Fuchs works on a fat-bolt system. Quite a gun. Can't see me thinking the same of the R93.
I own R93s for two reasons; they take down and are easy to change calibers.
I do own other Blasers and love them though.
14 January 2005, 16:56
JefferyDenmarkWOOW What crap
Double push feed slow cocking plastic "rifle"
This is clearly an example of too much money and no brain to use it the right way.
Very much like this Elvis blaser. Too much $$ and no taste or sence of quality.
Press the reality button... Please
Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
14 January 2005, 17:17
JudgeGI'll just go with two H&R rifles in .45/70 and some DucTape.
14 January 2005, 17:53
foxfirequote:
Originally posted by JudgeG:
I'll just go with two H&R rifles in .45/70 and some DucTape.
Now that was funny
No good deed goes unpunished.
23 April 2005, 00:33
ErikDAnd at long last I got the "honor" to handle this piece of over engineered crap...
At a gun/hunting show today outside Oslo, the Blaser importer Norma had one on display. It was a "plain" variant, without all the gold and engraving though. So I didn't throw up immediatly. but after playing around with it a bit, I did get the urge to vomit... It actually felt even more clumsy than it looks like. And the straight pull mechanism was way harder than on a regular R93. Basically because you're pulling and cocking two bolts at the same time.
And of course, each cocking lever had to be pushed forward for each barrel the first time. Fair enough, but doing so, and then moving your thumb over to the next cocker, and then gripping the gun to fire was very annoying...
I tried cocking and dry firing one, both etc and it felt very un-natural. With a R93, the cocking lever is right up the grip, while the ones on the Model Hamed were of course off to each side. The guy said the magazines took 3 rounds each depending on calibur.
To top it all, the one on display was in 30-06...
A real piece of total crap.
23 April 2005, 00:54
MinkmanDoes it have interchangable barrels?
I hope it comes in .460WBY!!! Although that carved stock may need to be filled out with clear epoxy or Lucite, maybe a goldfish in a little tank swimming around.
This would have be for me, but I thought there was only one bolt. Two makes it redundant.
All the Best to Sheik Hamed Bin Zayed Al-Nahyan on this wonderous symbol of monetary sewage!
Minkman
23 April 2005, 01:06
Widowmaker416If memory serves me, I saw one of these at the Reno SCI show. It's looks scary, don't think I be ordering one this year!
The one I saw did't have the "pretty"
stock. But it was the double bolt
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As always, Good Hunting!!!
Widowmaker416
23 April 2005, 03:15
shakariThere's many different types of rifles and many different ways of describing them.....there are just rifles, nice rifles, beautiful rifles and fine rifles...but those rifles are just fu***ng UGLY rifles..........
23 April 2005, 03:38
OldsargeJeez, think of all the weight I could lose just thinking about that thing before a meal.
Sarge
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23 April 2005, 04:21
<mikeh416Rigby>I haven't experienced a nightmare like this since the last time I took Larium.
23 April 2005, 04:41
T.CarrI want one. It has to be stainless with one of those multi-colored laminate wood stocks. One barrel chambered in 22LR and one chambered in 600 NE. That way I can hunt anything on the planet. I want a scope mounted on each barrel.
Maybe some tasteful engraving. Have I left anything out?
Regards,
Terry
If I decide I don't like the stainless, I could paint it with BBQ paint. If it doesn't shoot well, maybe I'll bed it with rubber bands.
Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns]
23 April 2005, 04:43
<mikeh416Rigby>quote:
Originally posted by T.Carr:
I want one. It has to be stainless with one of those multi-colored laminate wood stocks. One barrel chambered in 22LR and one chambered in 600 NE. That way I can hunt anything on the planet. I want a scope mounted on each barrel.
Maybe some tasteful engraving. Have I left anything out?
Regards,
Terry
If I decide I don't like the stainless, I could paint it with BBQ paint. If it doesn't shoot well, maybe I'll bed it with rubber bands.
Terry, for everything on the planet, you would need a 12 guage barrel underneath.
23 April 2005, 05:16
Mickey1quote:
Originally posted by ErikD:
And at long last I got the "honor" to handle this piece of over engineered crap...
At a gun/hunting show today outside Oslo, the Blaser importer Norma had one on display. It was a "plain" variant, without all the gold and engraving though. So I didn't throw up immediatly. but after playing around with it a bit, I did get the urge to vomit... It actually felt even more clumsy than it looks like. And the straight pull mechanism was way harder than on a regular R93. Basically because you're pulling and cocking two bolts at the same time.
And of course, each cocking lever had to be pushed forward for each barrel the first time. Fair enough, but doing so, and then moving your thumb over to the next cocker, and then gripping the gun to fire was very annoying...
I tried cocking and dry firing one, both etc and it felt very un-natural. With a R93, the cocking lever is right up the grip, while the ones on the Model Hamed were of course off to each side. The guy said the magazines took 3 rounds each depending on calibur.
To top it all, the one on display was in 30-06...
A real piece of total crap.
Eric
I'll bet Blaser can't wait to let you evaluate their next rifle.
You being so open minded and all.
I can't wait for the Gun pimps to write their evaluations.
23 April 2005, 12:20
ErikDquote:
Originally posted by Mickey1:
quote:
Originally posted by ErikD:
And at long last I got the "honor" to handle this piece of over engineered crap...
At a gun/hunting show today outside Oslo, the Blaser importer Norma had one on display. It was a "plain" variant, without all the gold and engraving though. So I didn't throw up immediatly. but after playing around with it a bit, I did get the urge to vomit... It actually felt even more clumsy than it looks like. And the straight pull mechanism was way harder than on a regular R93. Basically because you're pulling and cocking two bolts at the same time.
And of course, each cocking lever had to be pushed forward for each barrel the first time. Fair enough, but doing so, and then moving your thumb over to the next cocker, and then gripping the gun to fire was very annoying...
I tried cocking and dry firing one, both etc and it felt very un-natural. With a R93, the cocking lever is right up the grip, while the ones on the Model Hamed were of course off to each side. The guy said the magazines took 3 rounds each depending on calibur.
To top it all, the one on display was in 30-06...
A real piece of total crap.
Eric
I'll bet Blaser can't wait to let you evaluate their next rifle.
You being so open minded and all.
I can't wait for the Gun pimps to write their evaluations.
Mickey,
The funny thing was that the guy at Norma told me he couldn't take it seriously himself either. The Hamed is just an oddity, and not a very nice one at that.
And I was a little dissapointed that the one they had was in a small calibur like 30-06. Not much of a dangerous game double... They could at least have had one on 9,3 or bigger. This made the skinny barrels look kind of weird too, since the gun is very bulky and wide. The tiny little 30 cal barrels just looked un-natural.
The R93 I used to have was one of the most accurate rifles I've owned, and maybe the Hamed is accurate too. But it is so unwieldly and clumsily designed that dragging a 4-bore along would be more practical...
It is a good thing that Johan hasn't seen one for real yet. He would probably develop a stomach ulcer from holding it!