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28 April 2015, 17:22
500nitro
problems with SAA shipping hunting trophies
SAA have stopped hunting trophy shipments for elly, rhino, lion and tiger
http://traveller24.news24.com/...ng-CAA-fine-20150428


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28 April 2015, 20:24
AilsaWheels
It states, "Please be advised that South African Airways Cargo has taken a decision to place a total embargo on the transportation of hunting trophies (Rhino, Elephant, Lion and Tiger) on its services worldwide


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28 April 2015, 21:54
Bill C
quote:
Originally posted by AilsaWheels:
It states, "Please be advised that South African Airways Cargo has taken a decision to place a total embargo on the transportation of hunting trophies (Rhino, Elephant, Lion and Tiger) on its services worldwide.
Well it was reported on another forum in 2013 that this company posted pictures of a tiger and a jaguar that had been "bow hunted": http://www.gotsoma.co.za/

Their gallery webpage does not seem to have these included any more, but the screenshots are out there via a google.
29 April 2015, 16:19
shakari
We heard about this weird ban on trophy shipment just after it was announced but kept quiet about it because something doesn't seem to add up.

Although full details don't appear to have been published yet (and possibly never will be), it seems the original problem might have occurred when SAA sent a shipment of those trophies to Oz and they were marked as 'machine parts'

Bearing in mind it's the shipper not the airline that puts the content description on the shipment, my guess is someone was due to send a shipment of trophies from a canned shoot to Oz just as the recent ban came in and they tried to ship them with a dodgy content description and Oz customs caught them at it.

The SA papers are reporting that SAA have already been fined for the dodgy shipment.






29 April 2015, 21:33
venda axe
As I said in the other post. IF YOU WON'T TRANSPORT MY TROPHIES YOU WON'T TRANSPORT ME!!!
Bob
30 April 2015, 01:13
shakari
http://traveller24.news24.com/...ng-CAA-fine-20150428

http://www.eturbonews.com/5826...ife-hunting-trophies

Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery & Tim Clyde Smith's statement is mind bogglingly stupid. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes






30 April 2015, 01:49
kevin henderson
quote:
Tim Clyde Smith's statement is mind bogglingly stupid


and after reading it I can see no reason for me or anyone else on this forum to travel on SAA.
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30 April 2015, 22:47
MikeBurke
quote:
Originally posted by Bill C:
quote:
Originally posted by AilsaWheels:
It states, "Please be advised that South African Airways Cargo has taken a decision to place a total embargo on the transportation of hunting trophies (Rhino, Elephant, Lion and Tiger) on its services worldwide.
Well it was reported on another forum in 2013 that this company posted pictures of a tiger and a jaguar that had been "bow hunted": http://www.gotsoma.co.za/

Their gallery webpage does not seem to have these included any more, but the screenshots are out their via a google.


Right now for $18,000 you can hunt tiger with Hennie Viljoen in South Africa, has a picture of the tiger to be hunted on his Facebook page. barf
01 May 2015, 05:27
H T
Simplifies the airline choices for me. Won't be SAA ever again.
01 May 2015, 06:20
CharlesL
From the negative things I have read about SAA before I had already decided against flying with them. Maybe this move will earn them points with the photo safari crowd. That would make it easier for the rest of us to get seats with alternate airlines.


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01 May 2015, 19:24
AilsaWheels
quote:
Originally posted by MikeBurke:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill C:
quote:
Originally posted by AilsaWheels:
It states, "Please be advised that South African Airways Cargo has taken a decision to place a total embargo on the transportation of hunting trophies (Rhino, Elephant, Lion and Tiger) on its services worldwide.
Well it was reported on another forum in 2013 that this company posted pictures of a tiger and a jaguar that had been "bow hunted": http://www.gotsoma.co.za/

Their gallery webpage does not seem to have these included any more, but the screenshots are out their via a google.


Right now for $18,000 you can hunt tiger with Hennie Viljoen in South Africa, has a picture of the tiger to be hunted on his Facebook page. barf


Bill/Mike,

I stand corrected. I certainly wasn't giving SAA enough credit regarding the availability of tigers.


Wonder if a unicorn would be available?
01 May 2015, 22:27
Lhook7
quote:
Originally posted by H T:
Simplifies the airline choices for me. Won't be SAA ever again.


Same here. Their level of stupidity is mind boggling.


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05 May 2015, 13:59
mboga biga bwana
Something interesting from the NAPHA Facebook Site

NAPHA Press release concerning the SAA Cargo transportation ban on all trophies of elephant, rhino, lion and tiger

The issues addressed with this ban, namely illegal trafficking of wildlife products (especially elephant tusks and rhino horn) and unacceptable hunting methods (especially canned lion and tiger shooting) are a worldwide concern by the conservation-orientated public. As such the decision, based on actual abuse, has to be accepted.

SAA, however, is known to be an airline supportive of the “sustainable use principle”, which, once again, is proven by fact that the ban is effective only in terms of particular “problem species”, rather than a general ban on hunting trophies.


The onus now is on all stakeholders, inclusive of SAA, to see to it that actions, controls and regulations are put in place to prevent future abuse of the system, as transpired here, so that the ban can be lifted again. After all, it is of great concern that the confiscated ivory, which led to the drastic action taken by SAA, was on board one of their flights unbeknownst to the airline.

It is also high time that the hunting fraternity unanimously condemns the unacceptable practice of canned shooting (or as it is nowadays called “captive bred shooting”) and that conservation authorities all over the world implement regulations forbidding the artificial breeding of wild animals for the hunting industry.

Only then can sustainable trophy hunting regain its rightful place as an important conservation tool to the benefit of wildlife and natural habitats.


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06 May 2015, 22:51
Jan Dumon
quote:
Originally posted by H T:
Simplifies the airline choices for me. Won't be SAA ever again.


That's it. tu2
Don't fly with them. Better yet , book your flights with another airline and let them know about it.


Jan Dumon
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