Big buff killed w spear

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25 October 2013, 02:32

505 gibbs

good thing he was dead, that last spear to the balls would have hurt like a bitch.

25 October 2013, 03:43

Matt Graham

Wow - congratulations Tim, what a great buffalo!

I have spent 14 days on the buffalo trail with Tim and I can tell you that man is utterly fearless. I hear the PH tell him not to chase the bull when he runs off.... that is familar to me!!

25 October 2013, 04:55

MacD37

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Wow - congratulations Tim, what a great buffalo!

I have spent 14 days on the buffalo trail with Tim and I can tell you that man is utterly fearless. I hear the PH tell him not to chase the bull when he runs off.... that is familar to me!!

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I wonder if he asked that buffalo how he wanted to die like MS?

25 October 2013, 05:05

BrettAKSCI

quote:
Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
good thing he was dead, that last spear to the balls would have hurt like a bitch.

If he wasn't thinking about charging I'm pretty sure that would have done it!

Brett

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25 October 2013, 05:07

BrettAKSCI

quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Seems a bit "all about me".

Should he have had you on there to talk about his free chase cape buffalo kill with a spear?

Brett

25 October 2013, 05:16

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by dogcat:
Seems a bit "all about me".

Well they were making a TV show....

25 October 2013, 05:16

376 steyr

He didn't get the penetration that he should have but it was enough. Looked like it might have gone through the shoulder blade which would have hampered it a lot. Yeah, that last throw and up close left a lot to be desired but the buff was already dead. Just goes to show you that spear throwing is quite haphazard, that's why as weapons progressed the spear was left behind. In this day and age it's more of a stunt.

25 October 2013, 05:22

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by 376 steyr:
He didn't get the penetration that he should have but it was enough. Looked like it might have gone through the shoulder blade which would have hampered it a lot. Yeah, that last throw and up close left a lot to be desired but the buff was already dead. Just goes to show you that spear throwing is quite haphazard, that's why as weapons progressed the spear was left behind. In this day and age it's more of a stunt.

I dont think that last 'throw' when the bull was laying there was meant to do anything other than to check that the bull wouldnt move (was dead).... thats the way I saw that.... he wasnt throwing it to stick it in the bull.

25 October 2013, 05:32

bluefish

sorry, but I just don't care for the pandering to the camera. just not cricket as they say.

25 October 2013, 05:37

Texas Blue Devil

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I dont think that last 'throw' when the bull was laying there was meant to do anything other than to check that the bull wouldnt move (was dead).... thats the way I saw that.... he wasnt throwing it to stick it in the bull.

If you were just checking to see if the bull was dead,....Why would you throw your only spear??? Why wouldn't you throw a rock, or stick, or a piece of elephant shit??? It wouldn't take much prodding to get a wounded buffalo back on its feet.

I think he was a little excited/elated, and just screwed the pouch on that last throw.

I will say,.... he more courage than I,...or maybe less brains, because I have no desire to go buffalo hunting with nothing but a sharp stick.

25 October 2013, 05:38

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by 376 steyr:
Just goes to show you that spear throwing is quite haphazard, that's why as weapons progressed the spear was left behind.
In this day and age it's more of a stunt.

I recall Mr.Bell telling that he fired on a large herd of CapeBuff, and they all started to panic-stampede in his direction,
The tribesmen that stood back at the time he was firing his rifle,then commenced to charge into the approaching stampeding mob.
Bells account then tells that those tribesmen proceeded to spear a good number of those approaching buffalo to death.
Even the buff that attempted to get away were chased down and speared to death. Bell noted that no tribesmen were gored or injured.

"I must say I was rather staggered by what had taken place ; the awe-inspiring charge was apparently a simple running away ;
the terrific speed, strength and agility of the story- book buffalo all shown up by a handful of nimble lads armed with soft iron spears ;
the formidable buffalo made to cut a very poor figure, and the white man with his wonderful gun made to look extremely foolish." - WDM Bell.

25 October 2013, 06:01

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by Texas Blue Devil:

If you were just checking to see if the bull was dead,....Why would you throw your only spear??? Why wouldn't you throw a rock, or stick, or a piece of elephant shit??? It wouldn't take much prodding to get a wounded buffalo back on its feet.

I think he was a little excited/elated, and just screwed the pouch on that last throw.

Maybe he was so excited/elated that he didnt think to just throw a rock???

I think everyone standing there had a pretty fair idea the bull was expired, especially considering it had bleed-out.... there's not much coming back from that!!

I don't know, maybe you are right - I will ask Tim.

25 October 2013, 06:06

Texas Blue Devil

By the way, I thought the footage from the camera on the spear was pretty cool.

25 October 2013, 06:14

Safari2

Amazing..anybody know when or what area in Moz this took place?

25 October 2013, 06:32

bwana cecil

I AIN'T DOIN IT!!
I want something that goes BOOM.

25 October 2013, 07:07

drummondlindsey

quote:
Originally posted by BrettAKSCI:
quote:
Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
good thing he was dead, that last spear to the balls would have hurt like a bitch.

If he wasn't thinking about charging I'm pretty sure that would have done it!

Brett

Would have hurt damn near enough to bring him back to life

25 October 2013, 07:29

samir

That was a pretty cool video.

25 October 2013, 07:33

Todd Williams

Tim is pretty much "The Man" when it comes to primitive weapons. Love the little clip at the end of each show where he hits the airborne fly with an arrow, causing it to go into a tailspin. He's been perfecting that spear hunting "stunt" for some time now. I've always thought it was pretty impressive to be able to pull of some of the things he's done on his show, and he always presents it with a good dose of humor to boot.

25 October 2013, 07:58

Saeed

Am I the only one who suspect the buffalo had something wrong with him?

The only animals we have ever been able to get that close to on safari have been sick of one thing or another.

Healthy ones don't let you get that close.

25 October 2013, 08:36

Ackley Improved User

Amazing photography!

You ever notice that with the bow (and now spear) hunters in Africa always have a guy with a BIG gun with them...it makes them brave.

25 October 2013, 08:36

Nakihunter

That is really cool IMHO.

I saw another video in Oz where the guy tried it at 5 meters with a young juvenile bull & got charged. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKI1xmtf5Ck He ran around a termite mound and shot it with a hand gun quick draw!

See the way the bull sees the spear and takes it with its horn!

25 October 2013, 08:38

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Am I the only one who suspect the buffalo had something wrong with him?

The only animals we have ever been able to get that close to on safari have been sick of one thing or another.

Healthy ones don't let you get that close.

You can creep up close to ANY animal Saeed. You just have to be very, very sneaky and patient and dont let them see, smell or hear you.

25 October 2013, 08:39

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
Amazing photography!

You ever notice that with the bow (and now spear) hunters in Africa always have a guy with a BIG gun with them...it makes them brave.

That is not true with these guys. They have the gun there because that is the rules of engagement.

25 October 2013, 11:30

ozhunter

I must say it looked to be a good hunt and great trophy no mater what weapon used.
Me, I would have enjoyed that with my 458 or 470.

25 October 2013, 12:41

Torbjørn

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Am I the only one who suspect the buffalo had something wrong with him?

Maybe the buffalo had taken some sleeping pills ...

25 October 2013, 12:50

jens poulsen

Fantastic!!.

I might not do it with a spear...but I would love to sneak up close to a buff with my heavy 10bore and blast two barrels of..

25 October 2013, 13:42

skeetshot

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Am I the only one who suspect the buffalo had something wrong with him?

The only animals we have ever been able to get that close to on safari have been sick of one thing or another.

Healthy ones don't let you get that close.

While I agree that Tim did a great job with that spear, I also felt that a normal healthy animal would not let one get so close.

25 October 2013, 14:44

David Hulme

An extremely brave act, and if the buffalo was sick or wounded, even braver.

25 October 2013, 16:31

JCHB

quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
That is really cool IMHO.

I saw another video in Oz where the guy tried it at 5 meters with a young juvenile bull & got charged. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKI1xmtf5Ck He ran around a termite mound and shot it with a hand gun quick draw!

See the way the bull sees the spear and takes it with its horn!

Wow!!! Good thing old spear man had the revolver because he didn't look like he could run too far or fast!!!!
JCHB

25 October 2013, 18:03

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by JCHB:
quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
That is really cool IMHO.

I saw another video in Oz where the guy tried it at 5 meters with a young juvenile bull & got charged. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKI1xmtf5Ck He ran around a termite mound and shot it with a hand gun quick draw!

See the way the bull sees the spear and takes it with its horn!

Wow!!! Good thing old spear man had the revolver because he didn't look like he could run too far or fast!!!!
JCHB

Good lord... there's a 20-page thread about this video somewhere, hereabouts.

25 October 2013, 18:05

Matt Graham

quote:
Originally posted by David Hulme:
An extremely brave act, and if the buffalo was sick or wounded, even braver.

So could you have crept up that close to a healthy, sleeping lone bull David? I'm thinking so...

Anyone can do it with patience and stalking skill!!

25 October 2013, 18:26

chilcotin hillbilly

Great video, serious pucker I bet. the camera angle from the spear is definately cool.
Good for Tim on getting it done. I bet there where a lot of failed stalks before connecting on this one.

25 October 2013, 18:46

David Hulme

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by David Hulme:
An extremely brave act, and if the buffalo was sick or wounded, even braver.
So could you have crept up that close to a healthy, sleeping lone bull David? I'm thinking so...

Anyone can do it with patience and stalking skill!!

I'm sure I couldn't but bet there's a heap of guys who could. I've been almost that close to buffalo, I suppose, often by chance though, not stalking. Having said that, I've been with hunters who have shot buffalo at well under ten yards. My brother's tracker has pulled hairs from a sleeping elephant's tail...Of course it can and has been done, there are some highly skilled stalkers out there. I am not a proficient stalker, my breathing becomes irregular as we get closer to the dangerous beast, and I tend to step on crunchy leaves at the wrong moment.

25 October 2013, 18:47

David Hulme

quote:
Originally posted by chilcotin hillbilly:
I bet there where a lot of failed stalks before connecting on this one.

I think this is most relevant.

25 October 2013, 18:51

Matt Graham

quote:

I'm sure I couldn't but bet there's a heap of guys who could. I've been almost that close to buffalo, I suppose, often by chance though, not stalking. Having said that, I've been with hunters who have shot buffalo at well under ten yards. My brother's tracker has pulled hairs from a sleeping elephant's tail...Of course it can and has been done, there are some highly skilled stalkers out there. I am not a proficient stalker, my breathing becomes irregular as we get closer to the dangerous beast, and I tend to step on crunchy leaves at the wrong moment.

Least you are honest David!! My breathing sometimes does that but I have worked out how to control it. Pulse still goes up a bit though!!

quote:
I bet there where a lot of failed stalks before connecting on this one.

pretty good chance!!