More useless regulations to make our lives more difficult under the guise that we will be safer. Trading freedoms for safety. The same old crap.

But it makes the bureaucrats look really concerned. We're all safe now.

Will

Todd

Any former tiff's are off, with apologies. Together we will stand.........10

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Ray Atkinson

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Jim

JohnTheGreek

P.S.
Ray, I am certainly not a liberal, I really hated both candidates in the last election so . . . I voted Socialist Workers Party across the board

What a tragic crime!

This is a crime against all humanity, and the perpetrators MUST be made to pay for it.

I hate to say this, but I would have imagined it would never have come to this if the US has taken action for earlier atrocities committed against them.

When Reagan was president, and Qadafi hit that nightclub in Germany, the US Airforce bombed his house.

Did anyone notice how quite Qadafi became after that?

Another question we keep asking ourselves here what happened to the American intelligence services?

They had a program on our TV last night about this tragedy. One of our religious men was saying about these perpetrators, who call themselves "martyrs".

His answer was basically like this :" Martyrs! What Martyrs! They imagine they will become martyrs for killing innocent people who have done them no harm? They WILL BURN IN HELL! Islam is a religion of PEACE! These people are the ENEMIES of Islam! The VICTIMS are the true martyrs! They are all assured a place in heaven, regardless of their beliefs"

Most "experts" they have here are pointing the fingers at Bin Laden. If it is him behind this, I hope your military sends in a few additional missiles, just to make sure all those Taliban are assured a quick one way to meet the God they believe in. It certainly NOT the one us Muslims believe in

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

Tough Sh t. You come up with some weak hearted justification for what happened today. You want a response? Arcalite. As a Southeast Asian war criminal, I can tell you that six months afterwards the dirt still smells like rotting corpses.

No cool smiley faces today, this duck is pissed. Come see me bozo!

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"If you can keep your head about you when all others are loosing theirs and blaiming it on you..."

As for JohntheGreek, having the right to say as you please usually means taking the heat when you talk with your head up your ass. Obviously, your particular view on the points you made has bypassed and ignored any sense of reality or sensibility- either that or you are on some kind of drugs. Your lame post shows an amazing ignorance of the history behind almost every one of your "examples". Your moronic take on this matter shows a side of you most people wouldn't want aired in public. Either way, I agree with the sentiment that if you don't like it here, don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out! Any attempt to relay how I REALLY feel would rightfully get me a demerit(and probably expulsion) from Saeed, and rightfully so.- Have a nice day- you can bet many thousands of families in this great country won't be doing the same tomorrow.- Shame you weren't on one of those planes. I'm sure your show of solidarity with the hijackers would have been heartwarming!-Sheister

John the Greek writes a lot of crap about the US and war crimes. He dishonour your country for its deeds for the sake of freedom.

As a european I am owing a deep gratitude to your fathers who took part in the WWII, faced the death at the european shores and in the battle fields, to free all of us from that horrid wealth of evil the Nazis reigned. And after that, the Americans protected us from the evils of Sowiet communism. And after that Ronald Reagan forced the Sowiet to collapse through "The Star War Project".

In this way the US have gathered a lot of friends around the world. It still remains a sign of freedom and hope.

Fritz Kraut

Saeed,
Thank you for your kindness and wisdom! This was not an attack on the US alone, it was an attack on Freedom itself. It was an attack on our precious way of life and that includes you and all people that are free. Those true believers world wide sorrow over this tragedy. Those that take delight in this deserve extinction! I hope we all take note that Ben-Laden is not only not welcome in most Arab countries but has arrest warrants and even death warrants in most of these countries.

I don't want to rule out the use of nuclear weapons, but personally I hope that we send teams of assassins to hunt down whomever has done this horrible thing. I want them to see the face of that ugly American and feel for himself the terror of being hunted to extinction. If the host country were to interfere let them face the wrath of the Rangers and the Marines! Let them feel the helplessness of watching American aircraft bombing their cities to rubble. Let them face the humiliation of American tanks in their homes, Rock and Roll blaring over their airwaves. Soldiers turning their children away from their culture of hate.
Also, there are those people in this country that supported and helped these people. Those were sophisticated aircraft and they knew exactly how to override any safety measures on board and that information and training came from somewhere. These collaborators should be hunted down and publicly humiliated and executed! X-president Klinton should be tried for treason for allowing our security procedures to lapse, and for removing armed Skymarshals from domestic flights.

My prayers go out for those heroes and victims alike and their families, and I pray for wisdom for our leaders and the leaders of all the countries this will effect that they will do what is right! Let there be no sanctuary for evil!

Anyone who has any claim to being a human being cannot feel but being repugnant to this act.

Sadly, many people are not thinking straight right now, and all they want to see is some revenge, without paying any attention to who might be behind this atrocity.

Reports here are pointing the fingers at Bin Laden again.

Personally, I think ALL terrorists in the world are helping each other. And I really do not care what cause they are claiming to be fighting for. As far as I am concerned, get rid of the whole bloody lot!

While youre at it, you might as well get rid of all the dictators who are harboring them too.

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

WILL. I would have to agree with this my be this will show the people who would like to take are firearm freedom away from us what will go on when they are taken.

I will agree with Saeed and Ray on what we should do with these terrorist and the countries they are form should be responsible for this..They have been protecting and harboring these thugs too long.

George
we are glad to hear you are still with us.

MY GOD BLESS EVERYONE IN THERE TIME OF NEED

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Dave

I am grieved & sorrowful and condole for all who lost their lives. May God help their families and friend bear this great loss.

No doubt, those who are responsible should be brought to an end. Here sitting in my home and watching on TV the scenes of terrorism, I can feel the pain and anguish felt by those who are victims. I tried to imagine that, what will happen to me if my family or friends are victims of such attacks. As result I realized that in no way I could justify this act or favour the terrorists.

Any sensible person, around the world, who feels the pain of others and could realize the consequences of "What if it happen to me?", will not wish or favour such attacks on anyone else and feel/express happiness on other's injuries.

Saad

I hope my many US friends and acquaintances on this site will rest assured that, as usual, this country will stand Four Square with the US in the events that will surely and rightfully follow this cowardly attack on the free world.

Australia sends condolences.
We feel for you.
You are not alone.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Personally, I think ALL terrorists in the world are helping each other. And I really do not care what cause they are claiming to be fighting for. As far as I am concerned, get rid of the whole bloody lot!

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Saeed - I am sure you are correct. Look at how the 3 IRA terrorists were recently arrested at a training camp in Columbia.

The sad thing is my own liberal government has just spent the last 4 years letting convicted IRA terrorists out of jail early in order that they hand in arms. Total arms surrendered so far? Zero.

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'Trapper'

I've been told by some "Christian" idiots that I was going to Hell for not believing as they do, and raving wildly as they do. Amazing! At least here, the religious idiots don't usually participate in terrorism. They just foist their idiocy upon others in merely aggrevations, not deadly acts of Evil.

I think most people would agree that all religions are, at heart, a sort of blueprint for living together despite our differences.

Why folks can't live together and let the Deity settle the matters of the Afterlife when we all get there is a sad commentary on the nature individuals in particular, and of mankind in general.

FWIW, all the Moslems I've ever known personally, sparse though that experience may be, have been very high quality people who I believe I could live with, and who could live with me, in excellent peace.

Get any large group together, and it seems the lowest "common denominator" all too often controls the "problems" that arise, and the idiots in the group get to "define" the problem. Crazy, isn't it?

May the Grand Architect of the Universe be with all who have suffered, and may His mighty Hand aid us all in smiting those responsible for the attrocity of yesterday, and all those who aided them. This is now WAR, and though War is a dispicable act to have to resort to, it is upon us, and I MUST believe that we can and will execute it as well and intelligently as possible. It's something we seem to be very good at when the cause is just and we have decent leadership, which I believe we now have.

God bless America, and may He lead President Bush and our troops, our allies and the rest of the world in what lies ahead.

I have not been this proud of Americans since Pearl Harbor....This is no Viet Nam, no Korea, this is a UNITED States....The sleeping giant has been awakened, God help all who oppose her.......this is my America, my people...the word "patrotism" is back where it should have been all these years....

No, I'm no war monger, quite the opposite,I've seen all the death and destruction one man can handle, but I will not ride the fence and see my countrys people slaughtered and our sturctures collapsed by any force, and the mistakes we made in the past are of no concern to me at this time.......

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Ray Atkinson

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To focus on one group is senseless. We have enemies in virtually every country on the Planet. However, we have the means, resources, and finally the motivation to seek out the root of our enemies and destroy them. We must fight in order to survive this war. Unlike Desert Storm, this will not be a surgical action. We will be fighting a dirty war where many innocent lives will be lost. This is the price that our enemies will pay.

Many are asking how do we protect ourselves from terrorists. The answer is simply - make the repercussion asymmetrical. For every life lost, for every injury, for every sorrow that the U.S. has endured for the past 20 years due to terrorism, we will punish all responsible 100 fold. For every innocent life lost, we punish those responsible with 100 deaths. If you strap a bomb on your back and kill 1 person, the message must be sent that 100 innocent men, women, and children will die for your actions. This is the only way to deter terrorism. The price for a terrorist act must be so astoundingly and shockingly high that no one will undertake any action in the future.

This country is forevermore changed. We cannot and will not go back to our old ways of complacency. We must secure our boarders, We must root out the subversive elements within. We must be willing to sacrifice a few of our civil liberties. We must be willing to endure pain. We must be vigilant. We must be united. We must be dedicated ourselves to this cause, for we are fighting for our very survival.

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JD

So I dont need any History lesson's from the likes of a draft-dodgeing , backstabbing, character like you. I know exactly what you are saying pal, and dont consider this even close to a "critique" ; Its much closer to a personal attack.

With thousands of your fellow Americans buried under BLDNG's its almost unbelievable to me how you could have posted what you did, and which you are now trying to "back your ass" up on now.

Hmmmm, I was in Turkey dureing the Cypris incident. Did you guy's know that the Greek's gave up like a bunch of little girls when the Turk's attacked ? Kinda tell'sya where feller's like John come from....................10

It doesn't matter if it's muslims, catholics or protestants fighting......

I just don't understand the concept of "Killing in the name of God". Am I the only one that believes these are like mutally exclusive terms? As in, NOT TO BE USED IN THE SAME SENTENCE you morons.

The is no such thing as "killing in the name of god", God does not want you to kill anyone.

Sorry for the rant fellas. Apologies in advance.

Tex

It doesn't matter if it's muslims, jews, catholics or protestants fighting......

I just don't understand the concept of "Killing in the name of God". Am I the only one that believes these are like mutally exclusive terms? As in, NOT TO BE USED IN THE SAME SENTENCE you morons.

There is no such thing as "killing in the name of god", God does not want you to kill anyone.

Sorry for the rant fellas. Apologies in advance.

Tex

I was driving along the motorway listening to the live news coverage as this unfolded.
Even though I'm not American, I was shocked and numbed to the core...we actually drove 50 miles past our turn off we were so absorbed by the news....

What should America do next??? What its people demands....America should now take the lead in dealing with these animals in anyway it sees fit and I will be pround for my country to offer any assistance it can...
Hopefully we will "know" shortly who is responsible and who is sheilding them.....
Then I hope the retribution will swift, that it will be long and that it will painful.
The might of the American military has always been held in check by basically the peaceful, decent people of America...now it is the time for the world to see the other side of America....

We have been glued to the TV watching CNN. This is such an unbelievable carnage!

More and more evidence is pointing towards Bin Laden, I hope the American Government does not wait too long before they make those cowardly bastards pay for their crimes.

Forget about world opinion and diplomatic niceties. I suggest carpet bombing all the areas where he is believed to be hiding in, then send in ground troops to do the final clean up.

Oh, there will be the usual cries of indignation from certain countries, and I suggest a few cruise missiles there way might shut them up - hopefully for good

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

I have absolutely NO grudge against Muslims. A true Muslim that follows the REAL word, does not seek violence, but lives for peace. I hope all poeple realize this and will not start hating all muslims for what some VERMIN have done. That would be tragic. It would be like someone in a foreign land who never saw an american, thinking we were all like McVeigh, of course not. In case you wonder, no I am not Muslim, I am Protestant. I just have met (luckily for me), several REAL muslims, and have read a little about their faith.

Even in the Muslim faith, these terrorists are sinners, and will go to hell. I say our mission now is to speed them on their journey.

My sympathy is with the families, and the victims. I served 8 yrs in AF, and 2 tours in Saudi. I would go back in tomorrow, if it means we get these F'RS! My prayers are also with the soldiers all over the world who will now be asked to do heroic deeds.

To all, their will always be guys like John the Greek in our country. I don't like them either, if we followed their lead, the third reich would still be here. Thankfully their numbers are small. Don't let their kind rattle you, they're not worth the energy waisted on calling them dirtbags.

More Americans died yesterday than at the invasion of Normandy, and a lot of other battles and wars....

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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Rev.Jerry Falwell, the Christian religious icon himself is also advocating extermination of the cock roaches that perpetrated this catastrophe.

The Muslim (?) zealots must be a warped sect akin to the holy rollers that worship by handling venomous snakes. I hear their "holy book" (or whatever corruption of it they use) promises them sex with 40 or some such number of virgins when they go to their heaven(hell) by martyrdom. This explains something. They are all a bunch of deluded sex perverts!

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Good huntin', shootin', and spear chuckin',
RAB