Full-blown buffalo charge with CMS

03 December 2019, 05:15

nhoro

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Originally posted by Carl Frederik Nagell:
Thank you for the kind words.

I forgot to tell that the brave cameraman was Justin Drainer. Just after the charge I asked him what he thought when the bull changed direction and came for us. He said his only thought was that he was glad he was standing besides a 500 NE!

Re qustions: The gun is my Saur Take Down in 416 RM. Bullets are Rhino solids. The gun feeds flawlessly but my friend who is not used to it short strokes on the fourth round. He is used to a Balser That said his first 3 shoots were all within 10 cm of each other in the center of the shoulder just over the heart.

Some of you seem to think it was not a charge. I have a lot less buffalo experience than many but more than most. When that bull looked me in the eyes after my first shoot with 500 NE I knew I would be in trouble if the last shot did not stop him.

Good Hunting

Carl Frederik

Justin is an amazing cameraman. In 2014 he filmed an unwounded buff charge in Dande on my son's first DG safari. The old bull had a twisted back leg, and after several hours of tracking and bumping, he decided enough was enough and charged us out of some thick stuff. My son hit him twice with a .450 NE, Rich Tabor put a 500 through his left eye, which ended the drama, but I finally cleared the brush and put two .470s in him as he rolled on the ground. Justin caught it all, and once we regained our composure, Justin said "That's what I like when a buffalo charges, lots of gun shots!" Then he went about taking photos of the hooves, bosses, scars, etc ....

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you properly respect what you are after, and shoot it cleanly and on
the animal's terrain, if you imprison in your mind all the wonder of the
day from sky to smell to breeze to flowers—then you have not merely
killed an animal. You have lent immortality to a beast you have killed
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04 December 2019, 01:53

Brian Canada

Thank you Carl. I have used Rhino softs on zebra and wildebeest, Excellent bullets.
I hear that the solids are good too. Thanks for the answers, Brian

04 December 2019, 19:17

RobinOLocksley

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Originally posted by Carl Frederik Nagell:

Re qustions: The gun is my Saur Take Down in 416 RM. Bullets are Rhino solids. The gun feeds flawlessly but my friend who is not used to it short strokes on the fourth round. He is used to a Balser

Carl Frederik

Thank you for your reply. I would not like to sidetrack the discussion but would a Mauser type bolt action rifle have been a better option? I am not criticising the choice of the rifle here. Trying to educate myself.

05 December 2019, 00:33

MacD37

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Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:
quote:
Originally posted by Carl Frederik Nagell:

Re qustions: The gun is my Saur Take Down in 416 RM. Bullets are Rhino solids. The gun feeds flawlessly but my friend who is not used to it short strokes on the fourth round. He is used to a Balser

Carl Frederik

Thank you for your reply. I would not like to sidetrack the discussion but would a Mauser type bolt action rifle have been a better option? I am not criticising the choice of the rifle here. Trying to educate myself.

All of my big bore bolt rifles are built on either a Manlicher Shoenauer MCA or a FN Mauser action, both with CRF actions. I have never, in 40 years, had a miss feed, or miss fire with these bolt rifles. So I guess what I am saying is, IMO,a clean CRF bolt rifle is the nutts!

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Mac

23 December 2019, 03:35

35Fan

Great video and the other hunts referenced. I took my first Buffalo last Oct and will forever remember the hunt, no charge as the bull was down but not out. A few more shots from the 375 H&H to finish him off.

A couple conclusions I’ve come to in a charge situation:

1. Be familiar with your rifle in tense situations and be able to work the bolt and reload as quickly as possible. I’ve tried to simulate this by taking a shot off the sticks at a steel plate at around 75 yards, work the bolt and engage a second plate at 20 yards free hand. Reload and get back on target.

2. If a buff is charging, need to hit the brain or spine for a sure stop!

25 December 2019, 05:50

McKay

Shot a Buffalo with Len some years ago in long grass. Longest shot was 10’, closest was 18”. 8 hits with my 470 and 3 hits with Len’s 458 Lott. Len is a top shelf PH, would love to hunt with him again.

25 December 2019, 16:55

MacD37

In closing, I think this thread has proven one thing for certain! If the central nervous system is not hit the bull will keep coming, no matter how many bullets or what size go down range!

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MacD

25 December 2019, 18:36

Saeed

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Originally posted by MacD37:
In closing, I think this thread has proven one thing for certain! If the central nervous system is not hit the bull will keep coming, no matter how many bullets or what size go down range!

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I have been saying this for years.

One bullet, in the right place.