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Dande North
08 October 2014, 18:24
safari-lawyerDande North
Just amazing. Given what it takes to grow an elephant like that, I think we are looking at one of the top trophies to come out of Africa in the last quarter century.
Will J. Parks, III
08 October 2014, 18:25
MJinesquote:
Originally posted by KPete:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
That bull had an exceptionally large segment of tusk inside the lip. Amazing specimen.
Many thanks for the kind remarks, Mike, especially from someone with your success with elephants. Not surprising, then, that you should note the issue with the tusks relative to 'inside the lip' markings. From your experience, do you suppose it was presenting symptoms of
pachydermal dente mutilato stultiloquentia impaction of the tusks? I'm told this is not unlike an impacted molar in a human.
By the way, best regards from Buzz and the gang! They knew you would appreciate the photo.
Would be hard to tell without seeing the nerve. If the nerve appeared sort of gray and black looking versus reddish, that is a possibility. Regardless, exceptional photo of a very interesting elephant.
Mike
08 October 2014, 18:46
A.DahlgrenSo maybe we should guess the real weight ?

Or how many meters Kim is standing behind the tusks
08 October 2014, 18:48
CaracalI hear rumors this is a fake

08 October 2014, 18:49
tanksquote:
Originally posted by KPete:
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... Due to export prohibitions, these tusks will be surrendered to local authorities and will never make it to the US. ...
Noooooooo.
Time to shop for real estate overseas. All my trophies from a recent hunt in Zim are going to Europe.
08 October 2014, 18:54
pagosawingnutWords are inadequate. Outstanding!
08 October 2014, 18:55
Oryxhunter1983quote:
Originally posted by Caracal:
I hear rumors this is a fake
+1, I heard the same this morning!
08 October 2014, 19:03
Buzz CharltonRumor is unfortunately true gentlemen and the only reason that I am butting in is that I am inundated with emails etc and Kim seems to be away!
It is infact a 10 and 8 lbs cow shot as a ration. Just goes to show what one can achieve with trick photography! Basically the tusks are pegged in the sand with Kim 20 meters behind them with his hands in the air at the right angle that it looks like he is holding them and Justin takes the pic from a low angle right infront of the tusks!
I am afraid the days of 100 lbs in the Valley are long gone! The many of you who were tricked should not feel bad as you should see all the messages from the "pros" who also took it "hook line and sinker" Kim once again sorry for butting in but it was getting hectic!!!
08 October 2014, 19:11
retreeverHot damn, that is the best Aprils fools ever to us hunting guys. Or should I say,
October Fools
Mike
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08 October 2014, 19:18
LabmanI could see this being done on April fools day with a quick explanation to all that fell for the joke. If you look at the photo closely you can see where the hunters raised hand is actually behind the tusk.
Frankly, I think KPete should be ashamed of himself for trying to pass this off. What he should have done is post this on some anti-hunting site. Now that would have been funny.
Tom Z
NRA Life Member
08 October 2014, 19:37
shakariCleverly done........ and the best/funniest part of all is the furore being raised on the anti hunting sites.

Man but your name is kak with the antis! LOL
08 October 2014, 19:46
tanksAnd, it went viral on FB etc..
08 October 2014, 19:59
A.DahlgrenOne thing got me thinking is how many ANTI hunting orgs that are watching AR, within one hour Pieter Kat, LionAid and a few more had this posted all over.
08 October 2014, 20:06
tendramsLOL! THANK GOD! I was losing my mind thinking that the trophy of the century was going to be stuck in some government warehouse! Even went so far as to PM the hunter offering to help him store it in Canada. Great prank!

08 October 2014, 20:12
cal pappasquote:
Originally posted by KPete:
Thank you all for your very kind and congratulatory posts. Quite frankly I had not expected the kind of overwhelming response that this post has generated in 12-hours, especially given the very poor quality of the photo. The wife herself chided me this morning saying, "for goodness sake, if you're going to post your picture the very least you can do is stand closer to the camera".
Of course, she's right, and fortunately Justin (Buzz's videographer/photographer
extraordinaire) had snapped one where I wasn't standing ten-feet behind my beloved tusks. You'll find that photo below:
Oh, I have confirmed that this is a record - for me, anyway. As my only other elephant was a tuskless, this ration cow is the finest and largest ivory I've ever taken. (I suppose it's also the smallest ivory I've ever taken, too, but that doesn't quite have the same ring to it.)
As for their weights, they are still approximate but are believed to be in the region of 160 and 144 ounces respectively (that's 10 pounds and 9 pounds each). Certainly better than the other tusks I managed on this hunt, but by no means less exceptional to a relative novice like myself. I'll let each of you be the judge:
Sure this is all very impressive, but please don't let the enormity of these trophies overshadow what was most important: A fantastic safari with a great PH, a superb team, in a remarkable part of Africa that has to be experienced to fully appreciate.
That, and having the opportunity to play an important part in protecting elephants and other African game through sustainable hunting. This elephant represents much needed protein for the villages in the area; money from the trophy and daily fees has gone to improve schools, build wells, and staff clinics; and, has helped to fund anti-poaching patrols to safeguard elephant herds. Without hunters, the elephants of Zimbabwe are destined to the same sad fate as those in Kenya where hunting has been prohibited.
Many apologies if my initial enthusiasm got the better of me. My only excuse is that perhaps the contagion of Walther and his buffalo photo has become viral.
Mea maxima culpa.
Should have done this on April 1 to get ahead of Saeed.
Good laugh. Or, you really shot a big 'un and now are covering you butt.
Cheers,
Cal
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08 October 2014, 21:01
Dave FulsonFirst, I was simply THUNDERSTRUCK, I had no words, just speechless! I was about to bow down to all involved and begin a true round of hero worship. I'v spent much of my last 15 years stomping around the lower Zambezi and of course never dreamed such a bull was alive in either country. Best post of the season gents... I am still a bit speechless, but recovering!!
Dave Fulson
08 October 2014, 21:35
sdirksSo is the pig a fake too??
08 October 2014, 21:53
bwanajay
08 October 2014, 21:54
Use Enough GunContact Anna Seidman at SCI's litigation department. She is looking for hunters that have had their hunts cancelled this year, or who have been and hunted elephant, but not allowed to bring their trophies back. SCI is still pushing this issue as of today, October 8, 2014. I certainly wouldn't turn those tusks over to anyone until "the last dog is hung" on the USFWS prohibition issue, if I were you. Good Luck, and by the way, a huge congratulations!
08 October 2014, 22:08
cjfosterCongratulations!!! Trophy of several lifetimes!!
I hope this bull passed on his outstanding genes!!
08 October 2014, 22:10
cjfosterWell Damn. I fell for that hook, line and sinker!!!
08 October 2014, 22:12
Die Ou JagterMaybe the whole hunt was faked.
08 October 2014, 22:16
scruffyI doubt if I would buy a used car from that chap now ..

08 October 2014, 22:20
Bwana1Fooled me...
08 October 2014, 22:45
Die Ou JagterWOW, talk about fanning the flames of the anti's I don't think anyone could have done a better job.
08 October 2014, 22:46
BaxterBYou'll now be chided on the same Lion Aid site for killing baby Dumbo...
08 October 2014, 22:53
boarkillerDamnI love it
Excellent joke on us all
Nice set of tusks anyway
Still a shame you can't bring it back
" Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins.
When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar.
Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan
PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move...
Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies...
Only fools hope to live forever
“ Hávamál”
08 October 2014, 22:59
Bwannaquote:
Originally posted by dukxdog:
Superb. Circumference at lip and lengths?
I guess about 4" and 3"

08 October 2014, 23:48
Use Enough GunFooled most of us.

Still, the information that I have posted above from SCI is INDEED VALID.
09 October 2014, 00:32
JTEXquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
quote:
Originally posted by shakari:
Gotta say that if they were mine, I'd be looking at ways to ship them to somewhere like Europe or elsewhere where there isn't an import ban because there's no way on God's earth, I'd be happy with leaving them in Africa and most certainly not leaving them with the Zim Govt.
THIS!
And then finding a smuggler to get them home!
Damn man, that is fanfarrgintastic!!!!!!!
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09 October 2014, 01:33
leopards valley safarisAt a quick glance....fooled me .
I need to remember that camera angle in future for my marketing

09 October 2014, 01:53
MartyHook, line and sinker. First telekinesis, now this.
09 October 2014, 04:45
MacD37Man you can tell I'm not an elephant hunter! I not only bit. but swallowed that hook line and sinker!
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"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982
Hands of Old Elmer Keith
09 October 2014, 04:59
Bama15That was a good one. We were able to dream for a few hours anyway.
09 October 2014, 05:52
NakihunterGreat post - what fun & excitement. I hope your hunt as good!
"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
09 October 2014, 07:21
sevenmagltd.Far and away the best post of the year!!!
09 October 2014, 10:54
nickhThe best post of the year for sure!!!!!! Stultiloquentia Huh

cheers
Nick

09 October 2014, 11:24
jimmaraThat should have been saved for April fools day
09 October 2014, 12:08
DCS MemberThis was even discussed at the Lone Star Outdoor News event at Beretta Gallery in Dallas. 0nly in passing with patrons, but many were duped.
I meant to be DSC Member...bad typing skills.
Marcus Cady
DRSS
09 October 2014, 12:49
NoDak416Now that was a good Aprils fools for Oct but it would follow suit for a picture replacement...