Lion expert was banned from Tanzania for exposing corruption

26 September 2015, 09:09

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
and again...

Matt,
You 'choose' to be the SCI spokesperson therefore you get all due SCI criticism.

If the shoe fits Matt just wear it.
keep posting drivel.

Bloody hell Matt!

If we don't know any better we would have sworn you are being paid by SCI to be such a devoted cheerleader

26 September 2015, 11:37

fujotupu

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If we don't know any better we would have sworn you are being paid by SCI to be such a devoted cheerleader

..... or eating from the same plate

26 September 2015, 15:22

Matt Graham

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Originally posted by Saeed:
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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
and again...

Matt,
You 'choose' to be the SCI spokesperson therefore you get all due SCI criticism.

If the shoe fits Matt just wear it.
keep posting drivel.

Bloody hell Matt!

If we don't know any better we would have sworn you are being paid by SCI to be such a devoted cheerleader

Do you think SCI made a poor choice in reserving their opinion on this?

26 September 2015, 15:23

Matt Graham

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Originally posted by fujotupu:
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If we don't know any better we would have sworn you are being paid by SCI to be such a devoted cheerleader

..... or eating from the same plate

That appears to be a statement. Which plate would that be exactly?

26 September 2015, 15:54

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
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Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
and again...

Matt,
You 'choose' to be the SCI spokesperson therefore you get all due SCI criticism.

If the shoe fits Matt just wear it.
keep posting drivel.

Bloody hell Matt!

If we don't know any better we would have sworn you are being paid by SCI to be such a devoted cheerleader
Do you think SCI made a poor choice in reserving their opinion on this?

Frankly, I find it very hard to find something useful coming from those managing SCI!

That old saying "they cannot manage a piss up in a brewery" comes to mind

26 September 2015, 16:47

Matt Graham

So you dont have an opinion on SCI's action now? I recall you chastising them at the time.

27 September 2015, 06:59

Saeed

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
So you dont have an opinion on SCI's action now? I recall you chastising them at the time.

It is a joke Matt. Everything SCI does is a bloody JOKE!

28 September 2015, 04:17

Matt Graham

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Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
So you dont have an opinion on SCI's action now? I recall you chastising them at the time.

It is a joke Matt. Everything SCI does is a bloody JOKE!

I believe that you would find fault in SCI no matter what their course of action is. Such is your personal vendetta.

28 September 2015, 04:39

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
So you dont have an opinion on SCI's action now? I recall you chastising them at the time.

It is a joke Matt. Everything SCI does is a bloody JOKE!
I believe that you would find fault in SCI no matter what their course of action is. Such is your personal vendetta.

I on the other hand have only faulted them when they make decisions that prove that they had their head up their @$$ when they made them...like not signing on to the Definition of a Huntable Male Lion...permanently putting to rest whether the major scientific community (including Packer) supported responsible hunting or not...which they did and were willing to put in print. The problem was that SCI was NOT for responsible hunting...therefore they wouldn't.

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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.

28 September 2015, 04:57

Matt Graham

Still ranting Lane?

I see very many faults in SCI - this was not one of them.

28 September 2015, 07:49

ledvm

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Still ranting Lane?

I see very many faults in SCI - this was not one of them.

All that shows is that you are part of the problem.

But...I figured that out quite some time ago.

28 September 2015, 08:05

Matt Graham

you really are still very sour about SCI not bowing to your demands!! What a joke.

29 September 2015, 03:25

ledvm

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
you really are still very sour about SCI not bowing to your demands!! What a joke.

The joke is on SCI (and the org supporters)...but sadly...the lion will pay the debt.

29 September 2015, 04:12

Matt Graham

I suppose SCI was to blame for the Botswana situation too? And Kenya - what the hell.

And every other country with lions that doesnt allow hunting for them at all.

29 September 2015, 06:04

ledvm

No Matt...but SCI had a chance to prove to the world that hunters are conservationists with back up from the worlds leading lion scientists and powerful orgs like Panthera.

They chose to prove to the world that SCI doesn't give a $h!t.

The real problem is that the rest of the world equates SCI's action with the collective thoughts of all hunters.

29 September 2015, 07:57

Matt Graham

What world are you living in - where the inhabitants intensely follow SCI's actions?

29 September 2015, 08:05

ledvm

Unlike you Matt (and SCI)...I actually keep up with and understand the politics of the world that affect hunting...something that is very important in my life.

29 September 2015, 10:14

Matt Graham

How is Panthera working out for you Lane?

29 September 2015, 16:57

ledvm

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
How is Panthera working out for you Lane?

Actually...'I' get along with Panthera well. Luke Hunter is a personal friend. I can dial his number and have a rational conversation with him anytime.

If you go and look...you will see his name on "the Definition" giving his blessing to sustainable ethical hunting.

If you are to stupid to see how important that endorsement of lion hunting was...you fit right in with SCI brass as they were too and permanently alienated them.

Yep...Panthera could have been an ally of the hunting community until SCI f@(ked it up.

29 September 2015, 18:10

Matt Graham

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Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
How is Panthera working out for you Lane?

Actually...'I' get along with Panthera well. Luke Hunter is a personal friend. I can dial his number and have a rational conversation with him anytime.

If you go and look...you will see his name on "the Definition" giving his blessing to sustainable ethical hunting.

If you are to stupid to see how important that endorsement of lion hunting was...you fit right in with SCI brass as they were too and permanently alienated them.

Yep...Panthera could have been an ally of the hunting community until SCI f@(ked it up.

Go ahead...You go on supporting those organisations who support the anti's - and I will keep supporting ALL hunting organisations.

Will you be attending Panthera's "Cecil Summit" in Oxford next year? You can hear about how Cecil the Wonder Lion was "tragically killed".

Cecil Lion Summit

29 September 2015, 18:10

fujotupu

You're pissing against the wind with this one Lane; his running mates seem to be keeping a low profile nowadays except for the one windbag that lets out a wet fart every now and then.

30 September 2015, 07:49

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
How is Panthera working out for you Lane?

Actually...'I' get along with Panthera well. Luke Hunter is a personal friend. I can dial his number and have a rational conversation with him anytime.

If you go and look...you will see his name on "the Definition" giving his blessing to sustainable ethical hunting.

If you are to stupid to see how important that endorsement of lion hunting was...you fit right in with SCI brass as they were too and permanently alienated them.

Yep...Panthera could have been an ally of the hunting community until SCI f@(ked it up.
Go ahead...You go on supporting those organisations who support the anti's - and I will keep supporting ALL hunting organisations.

Will you be attending Panthera's "Cecil Summit" in Oxford next year? You can hear about how Cecil the Wonder Lion was "tragically killed".

Cecil Lion Summit

Thanks Matt for making my point for me. This whole Cecil debacle would have never happened had SCI not f@(ked up the politics with the lion scientists.

You think you are a supporter of hunting Matt??? You couldn't even begin to warm me up on the time, effort, and money I have spent on supporting ethical hunting.

With that time...I learned that SCI leadership was either as dumb as a box of rocks or really didn't give a $h!t about conservation...those who vehemently support them have to fall into one those 2 categories as well.

Which is it for you Matt???

30 September 2015, 08:13

Matt Graham

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Originally posted by ledvm:

Thanks Matt for making my point for me. This whole Cecil debacle would have never happened had SCI not f@(ked up the politics with the lion scientists.

You think you are a supporter of hunting Matt??? You couldn't even begin to warm me up on the time, effort, and money I have spent on supporting ethical hunting.

With that time...I learned that SCI leadership was either as dumb as a box of rocks or really didn't give a $h!t about conservation...those who vehemently support them have to fall into one those 2 categories as well.

Which is it for you Matt???

Do you smoke a lot of weed? That is the only explanation I can think of for you blaming SCI for the 'Cecil' deal.

30 September 2015, 08:17

ledvm

Well I guess it's the dumb as a box of rocks category for you then Matt.