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FN bullets from GS
04 August 2004, 19:05
asdfFN bullets from GS
Any thoughts as to how a GS FN in 300 or 350 gn launched at 2000 from a .45-70 might do for NON-dangerous game, say up to 700 lb?
The SD is poor with most .45-70 rounds, leaving me to fret about penetration. I was thinking these fat, nearly solid FN's might help.
04 August 2004, 20:04
Gina SchultzWe only make one FN for the 45-70 and it is a 305gr bullet. It is 305gr to easily distinguish it from the 300gr .458 bullets. The bullet is pretty close to indestructible and even shooting it into solidly packed earth backstops failed to cause loss of weight on the bullet. At 305 gr it is short enough to give excellent straight line penetration even in slow twists and at lower speeds.
04 August 2004, 21:14
IngweHi Gina, I am glad you posted - I have been wondering if you had any FN bullets for 9.3x74R?
05 August 2004, 05:24
asdfThank you. I don't have the barrel yet, but I'd likely end up with a .458 in whatever twist is appropriate. Other than diameter, is there any difference in construction (metal, length, or meplat) between the 300 and the 305?
05 August 2004, 06:35
AndyMike Brady of North Fork is putting an extensive collection of photos on his web sight of expanded bullets fron the 45-70.
Both his bullets and the competition.
You might want to take a look.
Andy
05 August 2004, 08:19
Gina SchultzIngwe,
Use the 9.3 270 FN. From a standard factory twist, it will give better straight line penetration than the 300gr FN. More speed can be had with a drive band bullet than with a smooth or grooved bullet and this translates into higher momentum and energy values as well as shorter time of flight. All this is nice to have when facing DG.
asdf,
The 300 458 and 305 456 are equivalents and you should use the one dictated by your barrel diameter.
05 August 2004, 13:14
lb404Gina, I have been following all of the threads about the troubles getting bullets from you to the USA. I would like to place a big order but I am reluctant to send a couple of thousand dollars to you and not receive the goods in a timely fashion. Have your production/delivery/shipping issues been corrected? How long will it take for an order of 50 boxes of bullets to reach me? Finally would you be willing to take a large order and send me the goods for inspection BEFORE I pay you?????
lb404:
500 Grains on AR recently made a sizeable purchase and it took a month to receive. That's pretty good. I am a customer and will be making future purchases as well.
From my perspective, and I may get criticized for this by some AR posters, I don't think it would be fair to expect GS Custom to ship thousands of dollars of product half way around the world and then try to collect payment. Perhaps you should start with a small order, or better yet see if John Murray at HV Concepts has the bullets you want to try. He is the former distributor who is liquidating his inventory. Check his recent AR "Classifieds" post for availability.
Good Luck.
RCG
06 August 2004, 03:38
DutchLb404,
Before you order the bullets, please check with the ATF about the required paperwork that must be filed when importing bullets into the US. FWIW, Dutch.
06 August 2004, 03:44
BFaucettI'm no expert, but I think that only applies to imports for commercial resale. I think small lots for personal use are okay. Anyone know the "chapter and verse" (the law) on this for sure?
-Bob F.
06 August 2004, 03:57
DutchBob, neither am I, but were I to order direct (which I do not advise), I would want to know for sure. FWIW, Dutch.
06 August 2004, 05:25
Don_GNo problem on small lots for personal use.
You will never get an answer from ATF. They say "read the regs", so that they are never responsible for any mistakes or oversights.
06 August 2004, 06:21
benchrestNot to get into it with anyone but like they say Read the Regs. If you do so you will find out even for Small Personal orders a form part 6 approved is required. It also applys to brass, powders, primers etc. They are on the US Munitions list.There is a dollar amount affixed to it also and as long as you stay below that no lic. or registration is required for personal use. My advice is to get the permit. It costs nothing and insures should the customs get involved in any way you are covered.
06 August 2004, 06:37
Mickey1Quote:
lb404:
From my perspective, and I may get criticized for this by some AR posters, I don't think it would be fair to expect GS Custom to ship thousands of dollars of product half way around the world and then try to collect payment.
Good Luck.
RCG
It doesn't seem any worse of an idea than to send thousands of dollars halfway around the world and then never recieve the product. 
Aren't their still posters here who have paid for bullets never recieved? Are all of the back orders caught up?
06 August 2004, 07:21
Don_GI still have not received one of my orders, but GS has spent a small fortune re-shipping them to me. They are in the mail again.
I think I've had 4 successful orders and 1 problem.
07 August 2004, 01:45
lb404I am with Mickey 1 on this issue. It is as reasonabel to pay for them after they are received by me as it is for them to expect me to trust them to send the order to me. I have never stiffed anyone on a purchase before. The people at GS have much to prove to their customers. Hell I would even go so far as to have the order sent to someone that they trust Stateside and when the order is here and right, I would wire the money.