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[B]What is this free trip going to really cost me?[/B]
09 June 2005, 18:01
RiflemanZ[B]What is this free trip going to really cost me?[/B]
What is this free trip going to really cost me?Just asking all you guys who've been on Safari,what type of outlay CASH will i need for this trip seeing all that i get free?Thanks
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09 June 2005, 18:13
Giraffe HunterThe memories of this trip will cause you to want to go back again and again and again. Who knows how much you could spend on future safaris just because of this one. The $$$ could be mind blowing.
From what I see most everything is free on this trip. I would bring enough extra cash to cover tips, soveniers, and possible an extra animal or two. If you plan to stay longer and do sight seeing also add that in. The biggest cost would be the taxidermy bill.

Giraffe Hunter
09 June 2005, 18:32
KevinNYIts going to cost me a good bit since I'm going to extend it to 21 days if I win!!
09 June 2005, 19:10
new_guyquote:
Originally posted by RiflemanZ:
What is this free trip going to really cost me?Just asking all you guys who've been on Safari,what type of outlay CASH will i need for this trip seeing all that i get free?Thanks
RiflemanZ - You shouldn't need to worry with those details, as I've already planned to win it myself!

Since you are probably taking me as your observer you will need a whole lot of cash, I can tell you that right now.
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09 June 2005, 23:23
butchlocyou guys just don't have to worry about it, I'm already packing
09 June 2005, 23:41
Frans DiepstratenI don't know what kind of dreams y'all been having, but in mine none of you featured.

Frans
10 June 2005, 00:30
AtkinsonSaeed set fourth the details to you, review that,basically as I recall, it pays for everything including coach airfare from the US to Africa, daily rate and trophy fees for a 16 day hunt, two buffalo and a lot of plainsgame. You will need to pay $200 per gun that you take and the airport ammo tax of $10 to $30 dollars (maybe) some times they ask and sometimes they don't, and thats Africa...
Tips to PH and staff are to be paid by you, Hotel fees before and after are yours to pay at $150 per night, we will make all reservations and put it on your bill for your guns and hotel at a discounted rate of ?...You can extend the hunt to 21 days and hunt whatever you wish Lion, Elephant, Leopard etc. maybe/hopefully, depending on scheduling..
I think that is fairly accurate, but 2006 is a long way off and we will iron out the kinks once the drawing is done....
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
The import fees for two guns is paid as part of the prize as well as the hotels room the night before the safari and the 1/2 day after.
When I win I'm going to need to take three weeks off from work. I figure it will be about $3,000 in tips plus a $1,000 for fees (Bakeesh?), expediting help through the airport, souvenirs, etc, Plus I figure I'd better have $2,000 for the "book" Kudu or other antelope that I know I will see that is not included on the list.
I figure I'd better commit to another $5000-6000.
Frank
"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
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10 June 2005, 01:47
baboon[QUOTE]Originally posted by RiflemanZ:
[b]What is this free trip going to really cost me?QUOTE]
I think the fact that its a free hunt for 2 buffalo in Tanzania is all that really matters.If you win take observer who upgrades to hunter and pays you the differance.That would make it a win for you and the P.H. as well.
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10 June 2005, 02:01
T.Carr This is a 16-day hunt in the Selous
One hunter and one observer with Pierre van Tonder Safaris.
Dates are as follows:
Hunt is for next year, 2006
28th of July arrive in Dar Essalam
29th of July fly out to camp
30th of July to 14th of August hunt
15th of August fly back to Dar Essal and in the evening fly back home.
Hunt includes all daily fees and trophies for the following animals:
2 buffaloes
1 Hartebeest
1 Impala
1 Waterbuck
1 Warthog
1 Nyasa wildebeest
1 Zebra
1 Topi
Import duty for 2 rifles
One night shared hotel room for one day before the hunt, and half a day at the same hotel after the hunt.
2 return air tickets from the country of origin of the winner, to Tanzania.
Anything that is not specifically mentioned above, is NOT included.Charter Fee, Dip-Pack & Crate/Export Tax, Ammo Tax, Hunting License and Gratuities are not mentioned so I assume they will be the winner's expense for those items. [My rough estimate would be $7,500]. Plus shipping of trophies to your home country [cost will depend on final destination; rough estimate of $2,500-$3,000]. Looks like approximately $10,000 cost to winner.
Not sure if Concession Fees are covered under the "daily fees". [Add another $1,600 if not included in "daily fees"].
Winner's cost would increase by any additional Trophy Fees.
Regards,
Terry
Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns]
I'm thinking about $250,000 might cover the medical bills for the heart attack I would have if I was picked.

Of course I'd be fine by 2006

Elmo
10 June 2005, 05:13
RBHuntquote:
Originally posted by T.Carr: Looks like approximately $10,000 cost to winner.
Thanks for the heads up Terry,

Should give me enough time to make up a good story to tell the wife about what I spent the $10,000 for.

10 June 2005, 05:45
bwanamrmAny of you gentlemen who wouldn't pony up $10,000 for a 16 day hunt in the Selous, be sure and contact me if you win...I'll take it off your hands for $10,000 if I have to beg, borrow or steal it!

God only gave me so many sunrises and I want to view as many of them as possible in Africa! And the Selous would be one of my "top 5" places for viewing. Hell, it would be worth it just to hunt with Saeed and his crew.

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10 June 2005, 06:03
T.CarrLadies and Gentlemen,
The above is just my best estimate, based on Saeed's original post. I don't have any "inside information". So I may be off the mark, but if my assumptions are correct, then my estimate should be in the ballpark.
Regards,
Terry
Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns]
10 June 2005, 08:07
D HunterIf I get picked I will sell cars, books, wine, children, house and maybe even rifles or fishing rods to come up with my part. 16 days in the selous? Are you kidding me? I would give up most of what I got. Wait a minute I guess the question is how much tax is due uncle Sam? My rich uncle will probably say, "50 grand will mostly cover it" "D"

Although cartridge selection is important there is nothing that will substitute for proper first shot placement. Good hunting, "D"
10 June 2005, 08:23
RBHuntI don't think anyone will turn it down!

10 June 2005, 08:38
UltraMagALL you good ol BOYS can keep dreamin' you know this good ol' GIRL gonna win it

LMFAO Those are some funny ass replies I think IM with D Hunter on this one if I win EVERYTHING is up for sale Family members included

Everything except whats going with me to Africa baby!!! Black Death here I come

Hunting its not a Hobby its My Way of Life!!!
Don't you mean airfare from Cattania Italy for me not aifare from the US?
10 June 2005, 16:01
Arild IversenYou guys talking like there is an US citicen that will win ???

It could wery well be a Viking that is packing his longsword in 2006 and set off to Africa

Arild Iversen.
10 June 2005, 17:35
rick3foxesquote:
Originally posted by RBHunt:
quote:
Originally posted by T.Carr: Looks like approximately $10,000 cost to winner.
Thanks for the heads up Terry,

Should give me enough time to make up a good story to tell the wife about what I spent the $10,000 for.
You may also want to set aside another $5,000 - $8,000 for the income taxes on prize winnings....
Rick.
I have enough money to live comfortably the rest of my life.
As long as I die by Tuesday.
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www.fox.nextelbroadband.net 10 June 2005, 21:59
NitroXquote:
Originally posted by rick3foxes:
You may also want to set aside another $5,000 - $8,000 for the income taxes on prize winnings....
No income taxes for me if I win.

BTW Do you guys
really have to pay tax on it .....
10 June 2005, 22:12
AtkinsonWe include the following in all our hunts:
Day rates
Gov. fees
use of 4x4 vehicles and staff
Hunting license
Dip and pack of trophies
Air Charter in and out.
We do not include:
Rifle import fee: (Saeed included this)
Trophy fees (included by Saeed)
Observer Fees (included by Saeed)
Hotels before and after (included by Saeed)
Ammo Tax ( a minor expense )
Air Cargo charges for shipment of trophies to be paid by the hunter..
At any rate all this will be fine tuned after the drawing and when you contact me, as you may want to upgrade, shoot more animals, lengthen the hunt if possible, even change the date if possible, any changes will be at our discrestion and dependent on our schedule and availability, we will try our level best to accomodate any reasonalble request...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
10 June 2005, 22:49
T.Carrquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
We include the following in all our hunts:
Day rates
Gov. fees
use of 4x4 vehicles and staff
Hunting license
Dip and pack of trophies
Air Charter in and out.
We do not include:
Rifle import fee: (Saeed included this)
Trophy fees (included by Saeed)
Observer Fees (included by Saeed)
Hotels before and after (included by Saeed)
Ammo Tax ( a minor expense )
Air Cargo charges for shipment of trophies to be paid by the hunter..
At any rate all this will be fine tuned after the drawing and when you contact me, as you may want to upgrade, shoot more animals, lengthen the hunt if possible, even change the date if possible, any changes will be at our discrestion and dependent on our schedule and availability, we will try our level best to accomodate any reasonalble request...
OK then, revise my estimate of winner's cost to $5,500 [gratuities: $1,600 PH; $800 Staff; $100 Game Scout; and $3,000 trophy shipment].
Regards,
Terry
Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns]
10 June 2005, 23:17
475/480Lord willing If I win ,It will cost me at the least a 416 Rem,and a 8mm Rem Ultra Mag.

Sean
11 June 2005, 01:17
AtkinsonBased on the above I don't see how the hunt will cost you $7500. or anywhere near it..
The hunt is basically paid for, other than tips, that are optional, and the tip is a gift. you only need tip what you can afford and it will be appreciated, end of story..
Basically your only cost of any significant amount will be a year later when you receive your trophies, probably about $2500. and if thats a problem then take pictures and leave your trophies in camp, or just bring a portion of them back, such as skulls etc., whatever..you still get the hunt, pictures, and memories evem of you choose to leave all the trophies behind and that, in itself, ain't no bad deal...
Other than that, your only cost seems to be a $30.00 ammo tax and a few meals..
Saeed didn't include some of the expenses simply because they are furnished by us on all our hunts, and he was extremely generous, and specific about most of the hunt being paid for so that anyone who wins can do it, so anyone else adding expenses to our hunts without referring to our brochure or withouit contacting us direct has no idea what we include or do not include although I posted it above in another post...
Ya'll should probably direct such questions to me, whoever wins contact me and between Saee, myself and Pierre we can probably work through any problems you may have and then you can post all about it when you get back from a wonderful hunt...
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
11 June 2005, 02:24
LorenzoFiuuuuuuu !!
Thanks Ray I was already

thinking in those extra 10,000 !!!

L
11 June 2005, 02:59
Adam ClementsTopi?????? Did I read this correct that a topi is included in this Selous hunt. Better correct that or someone will be looking a long time.

11 June 2005, 05:13
RBHuntquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Other than that, your only cost seems to be a $30.00 ammo tax and a few meals..
That sounds great to me! Hey, even if I don't win I am $10,000 better off.

And if you count the tax I don't pay I am $18,000 better off!

At least I think I am better off.

And if I win, as I plan to do, I will be a lot better off!!

Tips, nope not me I am going to claim to be half Australian. So I will only leave half an Australian size tip!

Seriously, I will probably give what I can afford on the tip. Something like $2500 and $2500 for shipping.
Of course doing my own taxidermy will save $15000.
13 June 2005, 22:28
AtkinsonNo Topi, that was an error, but something of equal value will be substituted, whatever the client wants that is available...I thought I had corrected that as it was called to my attention earlier, sorry..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
quote:
Originally posted by RBHunt:
I don't think anyone will turn it down!
Wrong, I'm waiting for a brown bear hunt in Alaska.
