Anyone had any first hand experience of how the 400 grain Partition works on buffalo or eland sized critters.

Supposedly the partition has been moved forward a bit (ala Partition Gold) to improve retained weight.

I have always had good luck getting the smaller Partitions to shoot in my rifles and was considering giving them a try.

Much obliged for any comments, Joe

Jmak,

I bought some 416 noslers for my Remington, and cut one in two.

The partition has been moved way far forward to play the weight retention game. Rather than a 60/40 split between rear and front core, this is more like a Combined Technology design and according to the local Nosler engineers is supposed to be an 80/20 split.

They are very long and have alot of bearing surface. I backed off 2 gr RL-15 between the nosler and my swift load.

I shot one into four, five gallon plastic buckets filled with water at point blank range which is a pretty tough test of a bullet as the plastic likes to rip off the mushroom, and it held the lead onto the front core. 2450 fps or so. Penetration was great, exited rear of third bucket and dented front of 4th bucket like a Swift.

Mushroom was three thick propellors. 379. 2 gr retained weight. Caliber was .59 x .77 compared to a uniform Swift at .78 caliber. The Swift split first two buckets completely in two and the Nosler split the first but not completely in two.

Nice bullet though and Id use it.

Andy

JMac,
I have used them and they are as good as it gets, nice mushrooms and lots of penitration..Quite a few were used last year in our camps with great results. They are a good deal tougher than most Noslers.

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Ray Atkinson

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I was waiting for Ray to chime in.

I suspect that Nosler is trying to imitate the Barnes X, whithout going all the way.

But they apparently work well. They're accurate but I haven't taken out anything with them as yet.

Will

I seriously doubt Nosler would attempt to imitate anything Barnes manufactures.

It's nice to hear that they work so well.

Unfortunately for me, my 416 Taylor did not shoot them accurately. Not even close.

But, that's just one rifle. Too bad it's mine.

Also, to be fair, my rifle is not very accurate with any load or bullet, it's just good enough to hunt with. Could be me though!

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Brian
The 416 Taylor WebPage!

Will - You cracked me up with your "Nosler attempting to imitate Barnes" statement. In my opinion, Barnes has been working hard in its attempts to imitate a bullet company.

Ray, given your experience with the new Woodleigh jacketed .416 (W37A) and the Nosler, which do you feel has performed better at Rigby type velocities?

Is the Nosler cannalure set up for a Rigby OAL type crimp?

I have only use the new bullet in the 416 Rem. but I have seen it used in the field with the 416 Rigby in our camp gun a Ruger...I did not notice the canalure location on the Rigby ammo that clients brought. But I'm thinking the bullet was designed for Federal, and that would be the 416 Rigby in that case???????? not sure. Also I'm not sure if the clients brought handloads or Federal Ammo....just that they were using the new Noslers..as they mentioned it...Shame on me as I am usually more astute to such things...

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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I just wish Nosler offered a 350 gr partition for NA game use, @ 2500 fps, I couldn't think of a better bear and moose bullet. Come to think of it, I'd also like to see a 350 and 400 gr .458" partition, but suppose the market doesn't justify them.

Paul,

I think the problem is getting a press to impact extrude a thick .458 jacket. They can do the pistol and 45-70 velocity level OK which is only 0.016 inch thick but probably not somehting that will stand up to 2,400 fps which would be 0.032 - 0.50 inch or more.

A 400 - 450 gr Nosler in .458 would be dandy, but I think it cant be done in a 60 ton press.

Andy