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Woodleigh hydro-stabilized bullets and big game?
10 September 2010, 20:07
Bill/OregonWoodleigh hydro-stabilized bullets and big game?
I had heard these new hydrostatically stablized bullets referred to from time to time, but just had a close look at them online and read this article:
http://media.midwayusa.com/mid...ic_stabilization.pdfThese things sure look funny, but it seems like the theory is sound. How have these bullets been working in the field on DG? Are they completely safe in double rifles?
There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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10 September 2010, 20:32
venda axethey look a lotlike the Barnes banded solids to me. Whitch by the way ars a great bullet.
11 September 2010, 00:50
Von GruffRhere has been quite a bit of hunt reporting about the use of the Hydro's on NitroExpress and all are very positive. This is the latest
http://forums.nitroexpress.com...=0&page=0#Post167505Von Gruff.
11 September 2010, 00:59
Bill/OregonVon Gruff: They certainly seem to work on Aussie buffalo!
There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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11 September 2010, 03:49
Mark RBill,
They seemed to work on everything from wild dog, donkey, brumby and pigs as well....
For heavy, strong game they're great. Not sure that I would use them for everything though, not because they wouldn't work, just no need really...
Cheers,
Mark.
11 September 2010, 07:20
ozhunterI think they will work similar to the NorthFork CUP POINT bullet and should be great for Buffalo PROVIDING they feed flawlessly through you rifles action.
01 October 2010, 22:14
JabaliHunterThese are really interesting.
http://www.woodleighbullets.co...tatically-stabilised I read that African Hunter magazine is going to report on some tests at some point.
I really hope someone can do some tests with the .450/.400 on tuskless elephant cows to see if there really is a big increase in penetration and shock transfer. Could it make the all-rounder even more useful? Just thinking out loud!
01 October 2010, 23:51
465H&HI will be using some of them next month on tuskless eles in Zimbabwe and will report the results in African Hunter Magazine.
465H&H
02 October 2010, 04:06
Bill/Oregon465: Can't wait to hear.
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03 October 2010, 00:41
AtkinsonSeem to be fairly close to the North Fork Cup Point, but perhaps more of a solid than the Cup Point whereas the cup point may be more of an expander..I am betting both have more penetration that will ever be needed, I know the cup point has and I never met a Woodleigh that I didn't like.
Ray Atkinson
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03 October 2010, 08:06
RIPHey Ray:
I agree the Woodleigh "Hydro" is harder and built for more penetration than the North Fork Cup Point, which is half-hard pure copper, IIRC.
Woodleigh claims the "Hydro" is a copper alloy.
Brass is a copper alloy.
In the Iron WaterBoard Buffalo, the North Fork CUP POINT penetrated about 75% as deep as the Flat Point solid.
Some reckon the Woodleigh "Hydro" to be intermediate between those two North Forks.
See the McCourry Institute of Ballistics test results in the Big Bores forum thread on Terminal Ballistics.
You can't miss that one, nearing 100 pages and 100,000 views soon.
03 October 2010, 19:00
465H&Hquote:
Originally posted by RIP:
Hey Ray:
I agree the Woodleigh "Hydro" is harder and built for more penetration than the North Fork Cup Point, which is half-hard pure copper, IIRC.
Woodleigh claims the "Hydro" is a copper alloy.
Brass is a copper alloy.
In the Iron WaterBoard Buffalo, the North Fork CUP POINT penetrated about 75% as deep as the Flat Point solid.
Some reckon the Woodleigh "Hydro" to be intermediate between those two North Forks.
See the McCourry Institute of Ballistics test results in the Big Bores forum thread on Terminal Ballistics.
You can't miss that one, nearing 100 pages and 100,000 views soon.
It is my understanding that The NF solids are full hard copper while the GS Customs are half hard. Am I wrong on this?
465H&H
03 October 2010, 19:44
ddrhookthe consistent shock channel shown on the links on this thread are impressive. It looks to me to have a great advantage over the other bullet designs. I'm looking forward to the reports we get from other members on the performance of the north fork bullets
03 October 2010, 20:38
Bill/OregonRegarding the North Forks, I hope to stop in at their plant here soon on a combined fishing and agate-hunting trip to the Oregon Coast. I've just got to try their cup points in the .375.
There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
03 October 2010, 23:11
ddrhookBill,
take a few pictures and post them if you can that would be great!!
07 October 2010, 18:03
stueyJust an observation, on the Woodliegh site the cals used were all presumably running 2400 fps +. The reference to wound channel was one of the big features to the bullets design.
Now if the rifle used is not a .338, .378 or a 500 Jeff but more like a cal shooting a mv of 2100 fps give or take ie the 450 nitro or 500 nitro one wonders if the same could be said for the bullet performance? D we loose the 'hydrostatic' effect and just get a projectile performing as a semi round nose solid?
Stu
10 October 2010, 18:39
JabaliHunterGood question - I'd like to know that too. I have seen a report where these were used in a .450/.400 on buffalo in Australia with very impressive performance, so i'm guessing that it does not matter and that the bullet design can set up the hydrostatic shock at lower velocity?