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11 August 2006, 18:30
Die Ou Jagter
22 Hornet
Does anyone know if this is a legal round in RSA? I am planning to hunt more of the little guys ie Suni, Red Duiker and Sharpes Grysbok next year and am thinking of taking my 20ga O/U using buckshot in one barrel and using an insert to adapt to a 22 Hornet in the other barrel thus have a combo gun. Anyone have any thoughts about this. Also I want to take two rifles so thought the shotgun would pass for third gun. On additional thought would 30-30 or 30-40 kraig be a better option. I have hunted Natal before and would expect the rifle shot to be 50 to 75 yds. The larger rounds would hit harder and possibly produce less exit damage. The hornet would probable explode and leave one helluve an exit wound.
11 August 2006, 18:38
shakari
No it's not...... .22s of any kind are only allowed for culling with a culling licence....






11 August 2006, 18:43
Die Ou Jagter
Steve you posted while is was editing the latter part of the question so thanks for eliminating the 22.
11 August 2006, 18:55
Andrew McLaren
Steve,

Don't know all your province's rules, but hope to find out that here in the Free State and others where I regularly hunt small animals with a 22/250 they don't have such bans. Maybe I'm doing it illegally?

Die Ou Jagter,

A 20 ga O/U with an ACCURATE .22 Hornet insert will do well. I do share your concern about size of exot wounds at 75 yards, and I have particular concern about possible size of entrance wound on close shots, but then you have to 20 ga for those. Either a 30-30 or 30-40 Krag will do well, but be sure that you get fairly hard and slow expanding bullets. A soft easy expanding 30-30 bullet may do more damage than even a 45 gr Hornet?

The animals you now intend to hunt suits jour handle wevy well! Wink

In good hunting.

Andrew McLaren
11 August 2006, 19:50
shakari
Andrew,

This subject came up a while ago and I checked with a few people, - amongst them, Ian Goss who is chief examiner of PHs for KZN..... everyone told me the same thing. - That all .22s may only be used for culling when a culling licence has been issued.

Most also told me that a visiting hunter won't be allowed to import a .22 of any kind - but I haven't checked the firearms act to verify that......But thinking about it, a visiting hunter may only import ammo if he has a matching firearm of the same calibre......I doubt very much that an adaptor for a shotgun would fit that catagory...... but I could be wrong.






11 August 2006, 19:57
Die Ou Jagter
So Steve the only option may be to use buckshot (close) or rifled slugs for the longer shots. This may not be that bad of an option given the true brush busting of rifled slugs not fast but of heavy weight. The O/U I have does have a quick and easy barrel selector. I think this may be the best solution.
11 August 2006, 19:57
kayaker
I am sure guys will continue to use centrefire .22's of various flavours for springbuck/Mtn, Reedbuck etc as some do. I doubt it will be enforced vigorously BUT for a visiting hunter, its not worht the chance and as Shakari added, importation is not allowed.

For those little guys, just use a normal medium bore (7mm/.30 class) with solids.....they will whistle through with little skin damage. 220gr FMJ's in a .30-06 and 147gr (about, perhaps 143?) FMJ's in a .308 (both Sako factory loads) work well on Duiker in my experience...


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11 August 2006, 20:14
Die Ou Jagter
kayaker, I have used 338 225gr solids with great sucess, but I would like the option of both worlds in the brush, without haveing to carry two guns and then have to grab the correct one whilst on stand. For the Reedbuck and Vaal most often longer shots I would use the 338 for sure.
Isn't planning a great part of the whole experience?
11 August 2006, 20:16
kayaker
quote:
Isn't planning a great part of the whole experience?


Yes, I spend hrs cooking up 'gun lists'!!! Big Grin Most of which is all unecessary, as 2 or 3 will suffice for the planet, but hey...it's fun!


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12 August 2006, 02:26
duikerman
My PH loaned me his .222 for springbok and duiker.

This was RSA.