This South African film features some of the strongest voices for conservation in Africa; including Dr. Ian Player, the man most responsible for bringing the White Rhino back from the brink of extinction, Dr. Bandile Mkhize, CEO of Ezemvelo Kwa-Zulu-Natal Wildlife, Land-Use & Wildlife Economists Mike Norton-Griffiths and Michael t'Sas-Rolfes, and more.
The 3 minute promotional video at the registration link (and below) outlines some of the topics covered in the film.
Matt, thanks for that. I shall post an online link to the movie after Steve's presentation. 7000 copies of the movie were sent out with the latest African Hunting Gazette.
Steve must be commended for arranging this presentation at Harvard University. I don't know if the type of people who will be attending the presentation are ever exposed to these kinds of movies. We need more people like Steve out there promoting the role of hunting in conservation to academics.
I am surprised by the lack of interest shown in this thread, 250 odd views, and the lack of support for what Steve is doing. I suppose it is more fun to bash, SCI, Boddington, Sullivan and each other than to show interest in a conservation topic.
Good luck Steve, I hope that you have a full house.
Many of us will be following developments re this video with great interest. Keep us posted on how the showing at Harvard goes. Thanks.
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11 December 2013, 12:51
ozhunter
Thanks for you work.
15 December 2013, 03:44
SteveGl
Thanks guys.
I brought the idea for showing Zig’s film to the Board in July, knowing that it would be a hard sell, but also knowing that this is an important story and an important film. I held a preview of the film for the President and Vice President of the club so they would understand what it was all about. They agreed that it was appropriate for an Environmental Club event.
I wanted to kick-off the semester with it, knowing that we would probably get a bigger crowd than later in the semester when everyone is writing papers and cramming for exams. It was set for September 20th.
Then I hit a bunch of roadblocks and began to think it would never happen. Some of the Board-members began to express concerns over the film’s content and I had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get it back on track. Finally it was set for December 13th. In the meantime I made the promo-video and poster and did my best to get the word out.
Unfortunately, there were several competing events on the same night and lots of people were, in fact, too busy writing papers and cramming to attend. Then the temperature dropped to about 12 degrees F. (-11 C.). Still, (or only) about 18 or 20 people showed up. I introduced the film and tried to prepare the audience for what I knew would be, at best, hard for many of them to accept.
As the film rolled and it started to become clear what the film was all about, 3 or 4 people just walked out. After it ended I stepped up to the podium for the Q&A and asked what people’s reactions were. An evolutionary biologist and University Professor (he didn’t say from where; maybe Tufts or BU – probably not Harvard), said he found the film “very upsetting”, and quietly began to explain why, but his emotions began to get the better of him and as I addressed each of his concerns, he got angrier and angrier.
Then another audience member who had some familiarity with the issues came up and tried to enlighten the Prof. I just let them go at it for awhile. Then I showed some slides and explained how sustainable-use has expanded throughout southern Africa, restoring wildlife populations, increasing habitat and empowering local communities.
The Prof kept trying to control his anger but as he ranted on and on, less and less of what he said made any sense and the audience began to turn against him (as I perceived it). This went on for quite awhile until his wife finally had to grab him by the coat and drag him out. He kept turning back toward me making accusations (typical anti-hunting stuff we've all heard before) until his wife finally got him out the door. It was something of a scene.
At the social afterwards, there was general agreement amongst the Board members that if I could arrange a re-viewing next semester in a larger venue and with more support from the University, it would be worthwhile. We’ll see. Chances of that happening are pretty slim but I’ll give it my best shot.
15 December 2013, 03:49
Gillettehunter
Sounds like you did your best. It is always interesting when some people can't see reason. I would say that you did the best you could with those you had t work with. Too bad it couldn't have been shown earlier in the semester as you originally planned. Bruce
15 December 2013, 11:14
Zig Mackintosh
Steve,
Well done and thank you very much for putting in the time and effort to screen the movie. We have had a couple of showings of the movie in the area in which I live. The idea was to try and get some feedback from the general public. We must have had 60 or so people at each showing. A couple of the people that attended are known rabid anti-hunters but what was amazing was that at the end of the movie they came up and congratulated me and asked how they could be of some help!
I have also directed people to the movie online through this article/discussion (you will have to scroll right down to find my comments):
I don't know if any of the antis that posted on that forum took the time to watch the movie. If they did they certainly did not comment on it. There were over 300 plays of it though. As I mentioned earlier in this thread 7000 copies of the movie were sent out with the latest African Hunting Gazette.
If anyone is interested in having a showing of the movie in their home town please email me and we can make a plan. I would suggest inviting a cross-section of the public rather than just hunters, it provides far more entertainment that way!!
Really appreciate your efforts. Steve it takes guts to do what you did in that hostile enviroment. I'm sure the professor you mentioned thinks of himself as aliberal open minded person. Interesting how he reacted when confronted with facts that challeged his beliefs.
Mark
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15 December 2013, 21:31
SteveGl
quote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG: Zig and Steve,
Really appreciate your efforts. Steve it takes guts to do what you did in that hostile enviroment. I'm sure the professor you mentioned thinks of himself as aliberal open minded person. Interesting how he reacted when confronted with facts that challeged his beliefs.
Mark
I'm getting better at dealing with these people and I learned a lot from having to respond to his attacks from the position of host and moderator in an intensely academic environment where everything you say is immediately called into question.
I even thanked him a couple of times for coming and expressing his views.
I think these people are used to having their previously-held views reinforced at these events; that “we (they) are the good guys and we’re winning” and so go away feeling good about themselves; but the message of this film is that “you (they) are the bad guys and you’re losing (at least in southern Africa)” – and they just can’t handle it. They’ve just got too much invested in the idea that hunting and hunters are inherently bad.
15 December 2013, 21:43
MARK H. YOUNG
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They’ve just got too much invested in the idea that hunting and hunters are inherently bad.
Correct and that idea cemented in their heads blocks any further idea entering their minds beyond the fact that animals are killed. Brain function stops beyond the words kill and animal in the same sentence.
Once again I applaud your efforts in a hostile enviroment.
Mark
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16 December 2013, 00:46
leopards valley safaris
Great job. I have had my run in with these people, it's really tough for them to see reason.
As Mark says there is no sugar coating it, no matter how we word it ,we kill animals.
We need to get the benefits across. Good job on this project
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