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22 March 2018, 18:24
rxgremlin
African Wildlife Working Group
I wanted to start a separate thread for this topic because I feel the subject is too important to be buried and lost in another.

The purpose of this working group is to develop some ideas to help promote hunting as a conservation tool. These ideas will be presented to our organizations so they can act in the best interest of all hunters

Time is of the essence because of the threat posed to African wildlife due to lion and elephant bans and the imminent publication of “Lion Hearted: The Life and Death of Cecil & the Future of Africa’s Iconic Cats” by Andrew Loveridge. As conservationists we know the devastating consequences of the bans and as hunters we know about the eroding support among the general public.

So I am asking for interested AR members to join us in this working group. The group is open to any member who is interested in the promotion of our role as hunters in conservation. Whether you are a concerned hunter (as I am), an outfitter or PH or even a representative of a hunting organization. Let's start to work on a plan to showcase our unique role in conservation and improve our image so our message is heard.

If you are interested please send me a PM.

Thank you,

Jon Peterson
22 March 2018, 20:55
fairgame
Anyway I can help then let me know.

I think it would be a good idea to have a rep from each African country.


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22 March 2018, 22:04
rxgremlin
Your help is certainly appreciated. I have been contacted by several people offering their assistance but so far Andrew is the only African.

Who would like to represent South Africa? Zimbabawe? Namibia? Tanzania? Mozambique?
22 March 2018, 23:43
fairgame
I would have thought Lane and our Mr Jines would compliment this group.


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23 March 2018, 00:04
ledvm
I am in...just not "African."


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23 March 2018, 00:11
ledvm
Nigel Theisen, a Zimbabwean PH of 30 yrs but also with 15+ years of TZ experience, asked me to add him to the group.

nigeltheisen@gmail.com


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23 March 2018, 00:22
Saeed
You can add me to.

Anyway I can help to make sure our children can hunt I am more than happy to so.


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23 March 2018, 00:30
fairgame
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
I am in...just not "African."


What I meant was that PHs and their respective Associations would be invaluable sources of what is going on in each country - Government/wildlife policy etc etc


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23 March 2018, 00:30
fairgame
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
You can add me to.

Anyway I can help to make sure our children can hunt I am more than happy to so.


Brilliant.


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23 March 2018, 00:50
larryshores
I am in.
23 March 2018, 01:08
crbutler
I would be happy to do what I can.
23 March 2018, 03:18
rxgremlin
Thank you gentlemen! I am humbled by your support.

I will get in touch with Nigel shortly.

And just to be clear both Africans and non Africans are welcome in the group.
We don’t discriminate Smiler
23 March 2018, 03:20
dogcat
If you have me, I am in.
23 March 2018, 04:07
Safari2
quote:
Originally posted by rxgremlin:
Your help is certainly appreciated. I have been contacted by several people offering their assistance but so far Andrew is the only African.

Who would like to represent South Africa? Zimbabawe? Namibia? Tanzania? Mozambique?


I am in, I could help out with Mozambique especially.
23 March 2018, 06:55
JTEX
As,per my earlier PM, let me know what I can do. I'm in.

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23 March 2018, 13:51
freischuetz
Mozambique i can help with i am since 1993 in Mozambique and just Mozambique, founding member of AMOS and Board Member since then. Living permanently here.

If that helps
23 March 2018, 17:19
rxgremlin
Here is a list of members by user name who have joined so far (in no particular order)

Fairgame
ledvm
Saeed
larryshores
dogcat
Safari2
JTEX
freischuetz
dgr416
boarkiller
Mark H. Young
Marty
crbutler

If you have not done so, please send me a PM with your real name and contact info.

I've reached out to a couple of other people including Nigel Theisen.

If any member is still interested in joining, it isn't too late. I'd love to see some people from hunting organizations on this list!

On Monday we are going to start working on a plan to address the issues we face. Unfortunately time is not on our side.

I thank the above members for their support and encourage others to join and let their voices be heard.

Jon Peterson
23 March 2018, 18:10
fairgame
Gavin Robinso - Chairman of the PH Association of Zambia can be contacted at gr.safaris@gmail.com

Maybe put a letter together that can be sent out?


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23 March 2018, 18:42
rxgremlin
Andrew I will do that. Lane has graciously given me the names of other people to contact as well.
23 March 2018, 20:26
Safari2
quote:
Originally posted by freischuetz:
Mozambique i can help with i am since 1993 in Mozambique and just Mozambique, founding member of AMOS and Board Member since then. Living permanently here.

If that helps


Good deal Toni
23 March 2018, 20:39
Safari2
In my opinion we should take some good examples of hunting based conservation from each country.

The discussion should revolve around RESULTS that have been achieved in these respective areas. Things such as:

Documented increases in game populations over time.
Investment in Anti Poaching Units and results.
Community Benefits - Schools, employment, meat drops..

As I am representing Mozambique I will propose the following successes:

1) The Zambezi Delta Coutada’s 10, 11, 14.
2) Coutada 9
3) Sabie adjacent to Kruger
23 March 2018, 22:43
Custom
Jon, I am happy to help in any way that I can. I will send you a separate PM.


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23 March 2018, 23:07
Brian Canada
I am interested in seeing what you have planned and probably participating, if the proposal is practical. wbriangallup@gmail.com


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24 March 2018, 06:27
rxgremlin
Thank you gentlemen. I'm will be working on getting some thoughts and ideas together this weekend.
24 March 2018, 18:47
rxgremlin
I wanted to give the forum an update. We have reached out to DSC and we are starting a dialogue
with them.

This weekend I am going to develop a position paper stating who we are and what our mission is.

I am going to make a mailing list for the members and email updates as they happen.

Thank you,

Jon Peterson
24 March 2018, 22:02
K Evans
[QUOTE] We have reached out to DSC and we are starting a dialogue
with them (QUOTE)

May I ask whom you are speaking with at DSC and when you reached out?


Karl Evans

24 March 2018, 22:10
Brian Canada
Jon, I look forward reading it. Brian


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24 March 2018, 22:15
rxgremlin
Karl, I sent you a PM.
24 March 2018, 22:17
fairgame
quote:
Originally posted by rxgremlin:
I wanted to give the forum an update. We have reached out to DSC and we are starting a dialogue
with them.

This weekend I am going to develop a position paper stating who we are and what our mission is.

I am going to make a mailing list for the members and email updates as they happen.

Thank you,

Jon Peterson


Any thoughts what this group is going to be called? Do you envisage an association and a board?


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24 March 2018, 22:24
rxgremlin
Andrew, I'm brainstorming and putting thoughts down so I can come up with something concrete.
25 March 2018, 08:18
georgeld
Jon:

This is a great idea.
Just make sure it's passed around everywhere and not just on A/R.

Put me down on the list too.

Good luck getting it together.
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25 March 2018, 21:49
rxgremlin
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen of AR,

I would like announce that after today we are not accepting new members into the group. The group is now known as the African Wildlife Conservation Coalition. The reason for action is that I would like to stay small and focused at first. Later as the need arises we can add members.

An executive committee has been formed consisting of myself, Mr. Larry Shores and Dr. J. Lane Easter. Every group needs leaders and this one is no exception.

If you are interested, here is a brief precis of what we are trying to accomplish.


African Wildlife Conservation Coalition

The purpose of this group is to gather a select number of people together from different backgrounds to work towards promoting hunting as a legitimate tool for conservation. To achieve this goal we believe that we need to engage the public to demonstrate that ethical and sustainable hunting is such a tool. We also believe that our public image as hunters suffer from the actions of a comparative few. To this end we are seeking to make sure that the messages we send out to the world are consistent with what we preach.

We would like to start by addressing the lion and elephant importation bans because they are affecting conservation now. Later we will start to address the hunting culture.

We are simply concerned hunters who want our voices heard by the general public so they may better understand the plight of African wildlife.

I also wish to make clear that this group is not interested in preaching to the choir or that we individually have any financial interest in the group. We simply want to move the agenda forward; hopefully with the assistance of hunting organizations.

Thank you,

Jon Peterson
25 March 2018, 22:21
fairgame
Jon,

I would personally accept any who feel that they could contribute to this group as members or associates.

One of us could easily be nominated to receive contact names and contact details etc.

Just my 2 cents.


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25 March 2018, 22:26
rxgremlin
Andrew,

I agree with your opinion but right now I want to stay focused and keep moving. Later after we flesh some things out we will reconsider.

I will say that any member can contact me with an idea and I will respond. No guarantees but I have an open mind and no agenda besides preserving wildlife and habitat in Africa.
26 March 2018, 18:07
rxgremlin
I have compiled a roster of the members from AR
of the African Wildlife Working Group and I thank them for their support.

I have purchased the domain name www.africanwildlifecc.org so that we might have a website as things develop.

Our intention is to keep the forum updated on our progress and share important news.
26 March 2018, 18:07
rxgremlin
To the members of the group I will be emailing out the roster shortly so we can start our work. I'm still waiting on a couple bits of missing info but once I get them I'll let you know.

Thanks
26 March 2018, 20:31
Brian Canada
rxgremlin, Thanks for the note,


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27 March 2018, 06:39
rxgremlin
Dear AWCC members, I have sent out a test email to make sure the list is working. Please reply BY EMAIL if you have received it.

Thank you

Jon