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18 March 2015, 07:53
ForrestB
Mutant Animals on RSA Game Farms
An interesting look at selective breeding on game farms...

http://www.bloomberg.com/graph...ame-in-south-africa/


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18 March 2015, 07:57
Big Wonderful Wyoming
More of the same eh?
18 March 2015, 08:39
Saeed
The kudu is NOT a mutant.

And their headlines BORN TO BE KILLED applies to all farmed animals anyway.

But, of course, they like to conveniently forget the millions of cattle, sheep, goats and chickens we as human eat every day.

Oh I forgot.

They come off supermarket shelves, where no animal is harmed rotflmo


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18 March 2015, 10:27
Venture South
Just another tactic to divide hunters.

Keep us fighting amongst each other while they change legislation.
SCI, DSC, PHASA and all the others need to wage their own propaganda war on the misinformation specialists.


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18 March 2015, 13:00
Bakes
quote:
But, of course, they like to conveniently forget the millions of cattle, sheep, goats and chickens we as human eat every day.


Come on Saeed, they aren't animals....they're meat. Wink


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19 March 2015, 09:17
fujotupu
Born to be Killed? ..... No Anti reaction to the following?

""A new documentary about fast food giant KFC is set to show the reality of conditions for the millions of chickens its customers eat every year.

In the documentary Billion Dollar Chicken Shop, cameras show farms where tens of thousands of chickens are crammed into windowless sheds at any one time where all they can do is eat and drink until they reach the correct weight and are killed; their lifespan is approximately 35 days.


Around 23 million chickens are kept and killed this way a year, it has been claimed"".
19 March 2015, 18:57
Aspen Hill Adventures
I do not think mutant would be the correct term for any of these animals. The colors that are being bred for occur naturally but are generally rare in the wild. A mutant would be a lifeform that was genetically spliced or something like a liger or tigon, the result of two different species producing an offspring.

I have heard that a lab in Dubai has mixed camel with llama via AI for a different type of beast of burden. They look pretty odd! Have you seen these, Saeed?


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22 March 2015, 17:01
lal
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
I do not think mutant would be the correct term for any of these animals. The colors that are being bred for occur naturally but are generally rare in the wild. A mutant would be a lifeform that was genetically spliced or something like a liger or tigon, the result of two different species producing an offspring.

I have heard that a lab in Dubai has mixed camel with llama via AI for a different type of beast of burden. They look pretty odd! Have you seen these, Saeed?
I agree 100% !
22 March 2015, 21:33
kallie404
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Originally posted by Hunting the Box H:
Just another tactic to divide hunters.

Keep us fighting amongst each other while they change legislation.
SCI, DSC, PHASA and all the others need to wage their own propaganda war on the misinformation specialists.


Well said !!!!
22 March 2015, 21:56
Mark Clark
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

I have heard that a lab in Dubai has mixed camel with llama via AI for a different type of beast of burden. They look pretty odd! Have you seen these, Saeed?


http://taylorllamas.com/Camel-LamaCrossPhotos.html

The young one does't look too strange.

Mark
24 March 2015, 01:59
376 steyr
Look at the wolf and then look at all the dog breeds that man has derived from the wolf by selective breeding. Actually the "white lions" occurred naturally in the wild and were captured and put into captivity to be preserved as they were not likely to survive well left in the wild.
24 March 2015, 06:57
Oryxhunter1983
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
I do not think mutant would be the correct term for any of these animals. The colors that are being bred for occur naturally but are generally rare in the wild. A mutant would be a lifeform that was genetically spliced or something like a liger or tigon, the result of two different species producing an offspring.


Tygons, and Lygers are not genetically spliced...they are close enough species to interbreed and produce a live offspring.

Having a serious education in Repro Technology and genetics, I find this thread and it's ridiculous comments hysterical!

NO one is splicing genes and genetically modifying any of these wildlife species in a lab, secret submarine, or zoo...it's just line breeding with emphasis on one phenotype (something that can be observed with the eye).





24 March 2015, 07:13
The Artistry of Wildlife
EVERY standard pig and cow raised today is from Mutated stock. Mutated to carry a larger body for more meat on that hoof..The market drives the producer and I'm glad it does. This IS another hunter against hunter debate that the anti's LOVE it!
24 March 2015, 22:14
BigBullet
Please don't read anything from Bloomberg and expect it to be factual or objective in its view.


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26 March 2015, 11:49
citizenh
Breeding animals to be killed... Surely that's the definition of 'livestock farming'? Not hunting..

I'm not anti free market but surely pure free market objectives are incompatible with conservation. Setting aside wilderness or preserving your land for wildlife is a different ball game to breeding animals that don't naturally occur in the wild.

The free market argument could be used to justify a lot of things that there is a demand for.... Not all kosher either. If we went the whole hog, heck why set aside large areas of land for hunting when you can do it on a 100 acres of land outside Joburg?