Overthinking Dangerous Game Rifles?

11 February 2014, 09:22

quote:
Originally posted by twobobbwana:

They were experienced enough not to be overly upset by "buck fever".....

Extensive knowledge of anatomy would also aided in this.....

Given all these considerations the 7mms would be fine for "offensive" purposes but, if all went wrong,
they wouldn't be your choice.....or Bell's or Corbett's or Taylor's.........as a "defensive" weapon.

Re: "buck fever'....Mr.Bell distinctinctly wrote-stated that the numerous novice hunters who took a 7x57 for lion were mauled/killed
bcause of their lack of nerve- or inability to stay calm and correctly place the shot.

Re: 'Offensive and defensive approach'- Bell choice for both defensive & offensive situations was 7x57....whether that be on the
numerous elephant & buffalo he shot, or any of the other DG he had to shoot to protect his some 150 African native camp staff.
He trusted his 7x57 to:
-efficiently obtain his mass of ivory,
- protect himself and his mass of staff...and to feed them all.
He used the cartridge intelligently and within it capabilities under a wide variety circumstances, for outstanding success.

A member posted earlier that he attempted to brain an elephant with his . 416cal but the shot was misplaced,
the beast sagged but didn't drop.
Bell wrote that he attempted to brain a particular elephant with his 7x57, the shot was also misplaced,
the beast dropped to the ground stunned and lay still. On approach it then got up in disarray,to run off in the other direction.

11 February 2014, 10:20

Todd Williams

quote:
Originally posted by Trax:
quote:
Originally posted by twobobbwana:

They were experienced enough not to be overly upset by "buck fever".....

Extensive knowledge of anatomy would also aided in this.....

Given all these considerations the 7mms would be fine for "offensive" purposes but, if all went wrong,
they wouldn't be your choice.....or Bell's or Corbett's or Taylor's.........as a "defensive" weapon.

Re: "buck fever'....Mr.Bell distinctinctly wrote-stated that the numerous novice hunters who took a 7x57 for lion were mauled/killed
bcause of their lack of nerve- or inability to stay calm and correctly place the shot.

Re: 'Offensive and defensive approach'- Bell choice for both defensive & offensive situations was 7x57....whether that be on the
numerous elephant & buffalo he shot, or any of the other DG he had to shoot to protect his some 150 African native camp staff.
He trusted his 7x57 to:
-efficiently obtain his mass of ivory,
- protect himself and his mass of staff...and to feed them all.
He used the cartridge intelligently and within it capabilities under a wide variety circumstances, for outstanding success.

A member posted earlier that he attempted to brain an elephant with his . 416cal but the shot was misplaced,
the beast sagged but didn't drop.
Bell wrote that he attempted to brain a particular elephant with his 7x57, the shot was also misplaced,
the beast dropped to the ground stunned and lay still, on approach it then got up in disarray and charged off.

Back to Bell ... AGAIN!

11 February 2014, 10:25

Trax

quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:

Back to Bell ... AGAIN!

The combined experience & knowledge shared by the likes of Bell and Selby will always be worth more
than a thousand novice hunters like you.
They didn't shoot stationary paper tigers to prove how fast and good they were against DG.
When you burn barrel out in .416cal on DG, come back and let the forum know.

In the meantime take note of what a 14 yr old girl can do with a 7x57 under the correct guidance and tutorship.

11 February 2014, 21:45

LionHunter

If you will put Trax on your ignore list, as so many of us have, you won't have to read his crap posts from someone who has never been to africa and never hunted DG. My guess is he is still quoting from books written by/about those who hunted africa over 100 years ago. Things were different then, but he wouldn't know that based upon his lack of personal experience. He is a PITA who only wants to

17 February 2014, 09:56

JBrown

quote:
Originally posted by LionHunter:

If you will put Trax on your ignore list, as so many of us have, you won't have to read his crap posts from someone who has never been to africa and never hunted DG. My guess is he is still quoting from books written by/about those who hunted africa over 100 years ago. Things were different then, but he wouldn't know that based upon his lack of personal experience. He is a PITA who only wants to

In this case he is correct(well, more or less)...

quote:
Originally posted by Trax:
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:

Back to Bell ... AGAIN!

The combined experience & knowledge shared by the likes of Bell and Selby will always be worth more
than a thousand novice hunters like you.
They didn't shoot stationary paper tigers to prove how fast and good they were against DG.
When you burn barrel out in .416cal on DG, come back and let the forum know.

In the meantime take note of what a 14 yr old girl can do with a 7x57 under the correct guidance and tutorship.

Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown